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    I'm all in for the clay origin, and note that if...

    I'm all in for the clay origin, and note that if a writer wants to go there, they can have Aphrodite (if following Marston, or some other of the goddesses) act as a parent, besides Hippolyta and...
  2. That's a deflection, because it is not the job of...

    That's a deflection, because it is not the job of the actors to shape and form the workplace environment. It is the job of the director and the producers. Actors play a part in that, as members of...
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    Yeah, these things are quite messy. And if we get...

    Yeah, these things are quite messy. And if we get a return to Oracle, then a lot of the usual narratives for women and relations suddenly gets changed, and that she was depicted as a sexual being...
  4. No doubt that everyone was under a lot of...

    No doubt that everyone was under a lot of pressure to both "fix" the movie and get it out on time.

    But that still doesn't excuse acting like shit, especially for the director and the producers....
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    Yep, which adds another wrinkle to the equation,...

    Yep, which adds another wrinkle to the equation, complicated by that DC is much less capable of introducing and sustaining women as superheroes or sidekicks than they are of introducing men.


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  6. I have absolutely nothing against DC doing period...

    I have absolutely nothing against DC doing period pieces, but I think shifting over to a permanent silver age-equivalent would be giving up about any hope of market relevancy.

    I've noted two...
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    Agreed. And I think this question hits to a core...

    Agreed. And I think this question hits to a core problem with a lot of the canonical (that is, done by DC or its licensees) shipping. A single male hero is OK, or a male hero with other relationships...
  8. DC must have been desperate to drum up interest...

    DC must have been desperate to drum up interest around Black Label, given the amount of delayed or fizzled projects that were announced when it was launched, and the way a lot of projects apparently...
  9. Or Fatsis…

    Or Fatsis…
  10. There is a truth to it, in that fundamentally...

    There is a truth to it, in that fundamentally Wonder Woman is about changing society, and a lot of the writers (and editors) of DC have a poor imagination of a changed society, and a lot of them also...
  11. Good question! Note that this will be unfinished,...

    Good question! Note that this will be unfinished, sometimes ambigious, and not necessarily the same elements that other people will see.

    One is the all-woman utopia of the Amazons. Scratch that a...
  12. Interesting observation, because modern Batman is...

    Interesting observation, because modern Batman is an extremely political figure to me. Though that is perhaps part of it: part of the "public persona" of modern reactionary conservatism is to deny it...
  13. I disagree here, on several different grounds. ...

    I disagree here, on several different grounds.

    First, a lot of the fictional characters were created to not act in a specific time, but to act in the "now". That the old "now" now is in the past...
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    Kai "the Spy" already used that cover.

    Kai "the Spy" already used that cover.
  15. Superman is relatively easy to update in an...

    Superman is relatively easy to update in an origin story today: just have him meet and be inspired by a pro (or semi-pro) wrestler rather than a circus strongman.
  16. The article doesn't really matter here. The...

    The article doesn't really matter here. The memos—and they were sent officially to THR by the highest level of Warnermedia—matter a lot more. The memos make no reference to any specific cases, just...
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    This calls for a Walt Simonson cover.

    This calls for a Walt Simonson cover.
  18. Agreed. I think most of DC's big names are...

    Agreed.

    I think most of DC's big names are sturdy enough thematically that they will work in today's society, as well as many other periods.

    When it comes to Wonder Woman and feminism, I think...
  19. In some ways Jemisin would be beyond perfect. A...

    In some ways Jemisin would be beyond perfect. A superior stylist who also is extremely woke and a great world-builder, and who is more than capable of complex plotting.

    But she is at a stage in...
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    Interesting! Thanks for pointing out that issue!...

    Interesting! Thanks for pointing out that issue!

    There should definitely be enough material for a nice overview and discussion of the bracelets.
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    *checks* It's not sourced there. Might be...

    *checks* It's not sourced there.

    Might be something to look for in Marston's (and Joye Hemmel's) run.

    ETA: Found a digital copy of Comic Cavalcade #14, which details the consequences of an...
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    I don't remember that being any part of Marston's...

    I don't remember that being any part of Marston's Golden Age run, at least not as far as I have read. The only similar thing mentioned is that if her bracelets are chained or tied together by a man,...
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    There are things to like in Wonder Woman Dead...

    There are things to like in Wonder Woman Dead Earth. The art is very well suited to the mood, the action is generally well done, and it is without a doubt a quality grimdark story.

    But it's not a...
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    Attila Kiss
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    Chalk me down for placing Diana in Washington DC,...

    Chalk me down for placing Diana in Washington DC, if she is to be stationed in America. It's where she started back in the day, and where Rebirth placed her. As a character with a focus on diplomacy...
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