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She likely still would have gotten Batgirl, but I guess being set up by Daniels might not have been best right around then, what with how the girls were pushed into the background. His art was real...

It would have been nice just because it was a big story that still sells in trades and is referenced now, and having Steph to foil a popular character would have gotten her more exposure.

Sucks when they do that. We lose out out lot of good story ideas, that could have out Steph on BFTC. At least it was fun watching Black Mask break down after what he did to Steph.

Oh, I see. They've killed popular characters before, and some people were really mad. DC had to fire the guy that wrote the issue after that, I read an interview, he was upset they put all the blame...

I heard it was a publicity stunt. The guy writing Batman at the time just didn't want Batman to have a sidekick, at all, and they thought it would make them sell more comics.
But why are we...

Or it's Abraham Lincoln trying to ban waffles.

I always wondered about this. Do you think she's dreaming about killing Abraham Lincoln, or she's telling Abraham Lincoln that someone else it trying to kill him and she has to save him?

Not now obviously, but somewhere down the line. They say the first season is about getting the characters to lighten up and it will get more lighthearted.

Hey, what do you guys think are the chances of Steph showing up in that new titans show?

I'm not saying being Batgirl again wouldn't be good for Steph, or that I don't like Steph as Batgirl, my preference for Spoiler is more a liking for the costume than any narrative thing I love all...

If the two Robins thing goes through it's going to go a disaster. I peeked at the Tim and Damian threads and they're already angry over it.
Comics are a medium where fans can make a difference on...

Steph as Spoiler fan works are hard to find, but it could help to actually make the demand for that known. Fan artists and writers are more likely to accept Steph as Spoiler requests than DC will be...

I don't take all that much note of the artists tbh, I'm more there for the words, but I liked how she looked in those issues of rebirth tec where she was mad at Batman, with the full face mask...

I do love Steph as Batgirl and Robin (that hair was iconic) But I'm one of the fans that likes the Spoiler look more, but I do like the history that comes with the other two because they are a big...

She was flamebird, then hawkfire for sure, but I don't think DC will let her be the original Bat-Girl again. They're pushing Babs too hard for that.

Last I heard, I think she was headed off to join the army? My memory's a little fuzzy on her so I might be wrong.

Because Bette was first, the others should all put hyphens in their names. But the Batgirls already did all their branding and they don't want to go through that again. Branding's important. Besides...

If it were a meta thing Bette could be kind of like their Princess Morbucks, but without the villain angle. She's a rich girl who wants to be Bat-Girl and competes to be better than the other girls,...

The brains, brawn, heart thing is giving me flashbacks to powerpuff girls and I just had a thought. How cool would a fun episodic show like that starring the batgirls be?

Almost all of Morrison's Batfam are their worst versions, his Bruce is a narcissist who abused his kids. Catwoman is Dicks mom figure and love interest. He's the one that made Damians mom psyco coco...

Thanks. I've read most of the Hinn Raven stories already but I'm glad to be reminded of them and the others look really good too. I wish it were easier to find good Steph fics like these.

I started reading the family business, but it's part of a series so I got kind I board when I didn't understand what was going on later and dropped it. Didn't have the patience to read the first part...

Not against romance if its well written and not just Steph fawning over someone else, but looking for something more plotty that's actually about Steph.
The last one I read was on ff.net, about her...

On the subject of fan fiction, are there any good ones on going now where Steph isn't just a love interest? Looking on ao3 is a nightmare. She's tagged in everything then only shows up for one or two...

I think a big part of it is that their backstories are extremely similar but they still turned out so different and that makes it's interesting. Both of their mom's were on drugs, their dad's were...