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    Yeah I probably wouldn't include issues like...

    Yeah I probably wouldn't include issues like that. I started making a list a while ago when I was rereading of what I consider to be some of the more substantive Peter/MJ issues:

    Untold tales 16...
  2. I think what MJ had going for her in that era was...

    I think what MJ had going for her in that era was that she was fairly modern for the time. She really captured the 60's zeitgeist as woman taking jobs to support herself, working on her career as an...
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    IMO it works well enough that you'd think the...

    IMO it works well enough that you'd think the entire story of their relationship was by design if you weren't privy to all of the behind the scenes stuff. Conway really laid the groundwork fairly...
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    Yeah...you have to twist yourself into a pretzel...

    Yeah...you have to twist yourself into a pretzel to make it work. Either they retconned Lee/Romita (but the events that happened differently in Blue have been referenced as they occured in Lee/Romita...
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    My headcanon is that Peter's first sexual...

    My headcanon is that Peter's first sexual experience was at the end of the first clone saga with Mary Jane. That one seemed the most suggestive to me, but I can't recall the first moment where it was...
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    I've heard this too, but I don't think this has...

    I've heard this too, but I don't think this has anything to do with the comics.

    It's the Raimi films. She kisses Spider-man while she's dating Harry. Tries to kiss Peter while she's engaged to...
  7. I don't think the argument here is that these...

    I don't think the argument here is that these qualities are bad (the video itself weighs the pros and cons of the archetype) ... rather that they can often be used as a crutch by writers as opposed...
  8. Agreed. The "strong female character" was...

    Agreed. The "strong female character" was designed to be a correction of the damsel in distress stereotype. It's not inherently bad. The problem is when writers equate strong with complex. A strong...
  9. Yeah I assumed that Molina's Ock from Spider-man...

    Yeah I assumed that Molina's Ock from Spider-man 2 was going to be the star of the show. I think bringing back Norman after his death in SM1 would be the biggest plothole here (assuming he's really...
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    That's true. But that was more of a story editing...

    That's true. But that was more of a story editing reason than a marketing synergy reason...they didnt want Miles' story to veer too closely to MCU Peter's. And it probably would have been easier to...
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    Both Spider-Verse and the PS4 game started...

    Both Spider-Verse and the PS4 game started production before Homecoming for that film to have any sort of impact on MJ's design (thankfully...not that it necessarily would have.) And they really...
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    I think they didn't want two different MJ figs (a...

    I think they didn't want two different MJ figs (a white redheaded version and a biracial version) being distributed at the same time. Probably the same reason we don't get Ned Leeds included in the...
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    Yeah this is what I've heard. They didnt include...

    Yeah this is what I've heard. They didnt include Mary Jane because there was a recent Zendaya MJ minifigure released. A comic Mary Jane figure was made a few years before the MCU version though.
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    That's fair. It really depends how you define...

    That's fair. It really depends how you define "bad", but even Spider-man's "bad" is pretty tame compared to other comics.



    Mary Jane and the amount of development that she was given in the 70s...
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    Basically. In general though I would say the...

    Basically. In general though I would say the comics have been more progressive than other media.

    Though I'm not sure if OPs post is specifically about sexism or just bad things happening to female...
  16. Poll: Maguire's Spider-man was given more quips in the...

    Maguire's Spider-man was given more quips in the tie-in video games and I actually kind of liked his delivery in those. He just sounded like a regular smartass New Yorker. The movies though used them...
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    Happy 80th Birthday to an iconic redhead who...

    Happy 80th Birthday to an iconic redhead who inspired an iconic redhead!

    https://i.imgur.com/CAgGzzP.png?2
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    The armor made sense, but I wasn't a fan of the...

    The armor made sense, but I wasn't a fan of the monochromatic look or the helmet. I don't mind the static mask, but I would've had Norman grab a gobliny non-armor mask from the mask collection in his...
  19. Poll: I'm sure you were able to comprehend what I...

    I'm sure you were able to comprehend what I meant. But in case I didn't clarify enough: between her death and her recent revival in other media, there wasn't much of a fan following for the character...
  20. Poll: “Gwen was a punching bag for longer than 10 years...

    “Gwen was a punching bag for longer than 10 years and her fans endured it better” “MJ fans slander Gwen with far worse language.”

    First of all, there was no Gwen fandom prior to the last 10 years...
  21. Poll: Oh lord, please stop with these absolutes. If...

    Oh lord, please stop with these absolutes. If you're talking about Gwen being a punching bag by being thrown off a bridge...yeah people sent Conway death threats when he did that.

    Anyway, these...
  22. Poll: I'm not sure how this entire discussion of MJ's...

    I'm not sure how this entire discussion of MJ's looks spun out, but my initial response to that Zendaya video was about MJ's personality and characterization, not her looks. I wasn't arguing that...
  23. Poll: I don't think Peter...even in the 90s...was ever...

    I don't think Peter...even in the 90s...was ever really intended to be plain looking or unattractive. He's been an attractive guy since at least the Romita era, and not just based on the artwork, but...
  24. Poll: Well...that doesn't describe Mary Jane or Peter...

    Well...that doesn't describe Mary Jane or Peter Parker in any media I've ever seen.
  25. Poll: A broken clock is right twice a day. This...

    A broken clock is right twice a day.

    This video also isn't entirely accurate in terms of how Mary Jane was presented initially. MJ wasn't designed to be odd or culturally subversive. She wasn't a...
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