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  1. SOME fans didn't see it, but plenty did. I was...

    SOME fans didn't see it, but plenty did. I was expecting it most of the way. Especially after the slavers. She was constantly having to be talked out of doing far worse things than she did. You take...
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    When Gillen said Jean's role would build over the...

    When Gillen said Jean's role would build over the course of the series before finally taking over the book, I don't think anybody thought the first issue would start Jean at basically zero. :(

    It...
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    https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/3sg4hWMD8ZogYsvt...

    https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/3sg4hWMD8ZogYsvtMxxcpn-970-80.jpg

    Given that cover it looks like it will be Holocaust or the 616 version, "Genocide", both of whom are supposedly dead.

    Given...
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    I loved the first X-Men Forever series SO much....

    I loved the first X-Men Forever series SO much. We would never have gotten it had Bob Harras stayed in power.

    That whole time was so exciting to be a fan as certain things were finally possible...
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    Very exited, I have literately been waiting...

    Very exited, I have literately been waiting DECADES for this story-line!



    https://i1.wp.com/comicsxf.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/0004.jpg?w=1280&ssl=1

    Bete Noir, the Adversary, the Shadow...
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    It's not exactly a secret. Jordan White was...

    It's not exactly a secret. Jordan White was talking about it in at least one interview, maybe more, around the start of 'Krakoa'. I remember a Hickman interview that added some additional details as...
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    Where the you want to call it 'filler' or not is...

    Where the you want to call it 'filler' or not is a mater of semantics.

    Krakoa was in the planning and being written towards back when Hickman was still writing Avengers. That is known. Key things...
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    Given that Jean has been apparently having...

    Given that Jean has been apparently having psychic sex with Scott, you could argue that is how she was conceived...

    Less a physical pregnancy than a divine one.

    And instead of being pregnant...
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    Given that Rachel has long been said to be a...

    Given that Rachel has long been said to be a child of Jean and the Phoenix, it wouldn't be that hard to make Rachel the child of 616 Jean.


    Jean-Prime in the White Hot Room:

    Even now I can...
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    No revisionist history. It's well known that...

    No revisionist history. It's well known that 'Krakoa' was already the plan they were working toward back when Hickman was writing Avengers. Then Hickman left Marvel and they kept doing some of the...
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    Wow. Thank you so much for sharing that! He 100%...

    Wow. Thank you so much for sharing that! He 100% nailed it!

    I'll add this:

    We have been dealing with 'Krakoa' and the 'Road-to-Krakoa' for a combined period of well over a decade. Krakoa was...
  12. I've wanted to see Gail take on the X-Men since...

    I've wanted to see Gail take on the X-Men since forever, but unless a LOT of Krakoa is undone... as in erased from reality, I don't even see much of a point in this NEW direction.

    You can't just...
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    Scott and Jean stayed as prominent characters of...

    Scott and Jean stayed as prominent characters of the ANAD X-Men for years, even after Jean's death Scott still lead the team until his departure.

    Bobby and Warren went off to found the Champions,...
  14. Mungho, as a fan I have been where you are....

    Mungho, as a fan I have been where you are. Abject misery warring with elusive hope, and hoping just lifts you out of the hole high enough that when you fall again, you fall even deeper.

    There use...
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    Iceman missed out of being a part of it because...

    Iceman missed out of being a part of it because Jo Duffy was developing a series for him that was on-and-off for years and had 'laid claim' to the character, meaning others couldn't use him.
    ...
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    Back in the day I was initially blown away by...

    Back in the day I was initially blown away by books like The Authority, before I quickly grew tired of 'the heroes are awful but the villains are even worse'. It was fine for what it was but then...
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    Lol. After whatever Phoenix did to arrest his...

    Lol. After whatever Phoenix did to arrest his hunger, I'm expecting Zomberine to go Vegan.

    'I wont eat anything with a face, never again, especially when it is someone's face.'



    Some fans...
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    Thank you, Mercury! Your comment reminds me of...

    Thank you, Mercury!

    Your comment reminds me of when I first started putting some things together around two decades ago and went looking for more information. I eventually managed to locate and...
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    First AoA Wolverine calls EX Wolverine...

    First AoA Wolverine calls EX Wolverine 'f-a-t-s-o', body-shaming him like he's in an old episode of Cannon...

    Then we get a completely random lecture on pronoun usage from EX Wolverine, and Jane...
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    Wow, Jean is so beautiful! I love the details,...

    Wow, Jean is so beautiful!

    I love the details, from the reflective sheen to the bunching and creasing of the materials... even the hair done in the structure of flames without actually making it...
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    Sharing this because some Jean/Phoenix fans here...

    Sharing this because some Jean/Phoenix fans here have expressed interest:

    Finding yourself wandering in a metaphorical desert looking for answers? Maybe you only know half the story!

    Recent...
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    Yep, exactly. That's how they are getting...

    Yep, exactly.



    That's how they are getting away with it, people thinking that anything that doesn't fit or make sense should be ignored, but many of those things do fit... with each other.
    ...
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    Did no one wonder why, just before Jean's...

    Did no one wonder why, just before Jean's resurrection, there was an adult Jean Grey running around on Earth? Why she was existing as a psychic ghost like Maddie did back in the X-Man comic after she...
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    It's more a matter of fans taking disparate...

    It's more a matter of fans taking disparate things that don't make any kind of sense separately and putting them together to make a very clear picture.

    Okay, I'm going to go off of memory because...
  25. Keep in mind that anyone who thinks that has...

    Keep in mind that anyone who thinks that has never liked the character, never understood the character and never will. They represent an infinitesimally small part of the X-Men fandom(and I would...
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