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So he'd be exactly the same except gay? What's the point?

On the other hand...



Yeah, that could be a cool story.

Yeah, I think this was during Brand New Day. And I'd like to think that Spider-Man respects Felicia enough to honor her wishes. If she doesn't want to know, then he should leave it at that.

Why would he? Publishing isn't a democracy. The reader either likes the book that comes out or doesn't.

Nah. I had no problem with One More Day when it came out and I still don't. And I like the books the way they are now.

1. Amazing Spider-Man - THIS is how you do a Spider-Man movie, to me.
2. Amazing Spider-Man 2 - Very good, but I wasn't such a fan of Electro.
3. Spider-Man 2 - Pretty good. I liked the Doc Ock...

As I recall, Spider-Man offered to unmask and she said no. I might be thinking of Daredevil, but I think that happened with Felicia too.

To the original question, yes she's been shown in civilian...

I don't think anyone knows his origin, aside from MJ. Black Cat and Aunt May probably knew at one point, but have since forgotten. The only reference I can think of is some 90s comic that had a story...

The only Spider-Man movie that I've enjoyed is Amazing Spider-Man. I think all the rest (even Spider-Man 2) were pretty weak.



Yeah. I think The Quick and the Dead might be the only Sam Raimi...

You're probably right about that. Although, wasn't Batman: The Animated Series coming out around that time, too? (Maybe BTAS started a few years before; I don't remember exactly). That awesome...

Even so, let's say that 10,000 readers quit collecting and suddenly began hating the character when One More Day happened. That's still just a drop in the bucket. Even if you said that 100,000...

This is nonsense. Common sense should tell you that much. One More Day might affect a particular fan's enjoyment of the character, but it has had zero impact on the character's overall popularity.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ku5UeUT7yIQ

Fair enough. Maybe I'm predisposed to dislike the term because Mary is so close to Marty. Or maybe it's just because it's slang that I didn't grow up with.

Right. In other words, the term is meaningless. At least, it has a different meaning to every person who uses it. It's undefinable, and therefore pretty useless.

1. Nothing in fiction is beyond dispute.

2. I am disputing whether this "Mary Sue" thing is even real. The whole premise is based on an undefinable concept. So far, the only concrete definition...

I think the show's alright. I have it on my netflix queue, so I watch an episode every now and then. I think I'm still only in the first season, but it's pretty good so far.

Uh. I dunno. That seems kind of random. Mephisto never had anything to do with Morlun before. What's with the obsession over One More Day around here anyway? I didn't think it was a great story, but...

Serious question: If a Mary Sue is someone with no apparent flaws, how can a character be labeled as that right from the beginning? Wouldn't you need at least a year's worth of stories to determine...

I'm beginning to see that. Maybe I'm too old to be on message boards. I don't get all this new-fangled lingo like "Mary Sue" or "pwned."


Oh, and get off my lawn.

I like you. I don't care what anyone else wants either.

But since you already think I'm a dick, I'll just go ahead and say it... Stop typing on message boards in class! That's where you learn about grammar!


LOL

:P

Yeah, I wasn't trying to take a dig at you, just noting that it was funny. Guess I should have stuck an LOL or a :P at the end.

It was just the wording. Suggesting that Slott needs to write Peter as more intelligent by saying "more smarter" struck me as funny. I don't know if it was intentional or not, just made me snicker.

Maybe she could flip out at her high school dance and become a Carrie Sue?

Can you define it? The wikipedia link just uses a lot of words to say not much of anything.