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As much as I'm loving '97 now, they better not butcher Messiah Complex if the show ends up there. I will riot ;)

Off-topic, but all this discussion has me remembering my favorite moment in Messiah Complex

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I'm a bit anxious about it, for reasons I've already stated. Unless '97 somehow adapts House of M / Endangered Species somehow without the Avengers.



You've hit the nail on the head. I think...

Before the Cosmic Fire Turkey debates get any weirder, I think it's also important to highlight the PF's narrative evolution:

During DPS, Jean only went Dark Phoenix because of the Hellfire Club...

Man, KrakoaClops ain't worthy of you, Queen ;)



Wait, didn't the writers have her dating Bishop or something? Or am I remembering some bad fanfic???

Fair enough ;)

I'm rather sympathetic to Jott fans during the Krakoa era, tbh.

I'll preface by reiterating -- again -- that I've dropped all X-Books near the beginning of Hickman's run, but after-- what was it...

Not meaning to come off antagonistic or anything, but if you’re expecting cultlike Storm worship in a Cyclops appreciation thread--- a thread where:

1) the fanbase is at odds over which era is the...

Ugh, I don't know what's worse, to be honest.

Bringing the O5 to the present or bringing them to the present AND not have any lasting consequences beyond, what, Cyke being friends with Kamala and...

Yeah, I'm with gray on this. I think it was only a matter of time for the P5 to lose control-- even Cyke-- as they were never meant to host the PF in the first place. The Avengers + traitors...

I've always blamed shoddy editorial, writing, or both, in particularly when AvX hit.

Recall the sequence of events that lead to the reveal in your example. I think this was post Secret Wars,...

I actually agree that an in-character Scott wouldn't willing work with and especially report to Apocalypse and Mr Sinister. That said, I don't think Scott would've made a very good -er- politician?...

Killing Cyke and replacing him with Tyke is probably the most plausible explanation I've read thus far for why he looks so young in the covers. Marvel did kinda try that already before though, and it...

Cyke without a telepath in his team? Blasphemy!

Edit:
Speaking of telepaths, is Rachel even still alive?

I don't mind dissenter archetypes, but for them to work, they kinda need to be a believable foil to the leader archetype-- which, to me, is why Logan and Namor were so effective (and even...

On other Cyke-related stuff, what's up with writers pushing Quentin Quire?

I mean, I get he does have a fanbase-- all characters do. But is his fanbase really big enough such that writers keep...

I'll wait and see first. '97 has done Cyke justice so far, and I'm honestly surprised at the support and fair treatment Cyke's gotten from viewers.

I mean, I've skimmed through posts on twitter...

I took it as that, too. Some psychic feedback loop between Maddie and Jean (triggered by Cable, probably, because we hear him shouting to turn off the music) heralding the impending massacre.


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We all knew Genosha was coming, but I personally thought it'd be the season finale.

Now lessee where this goes.

Maddie realizing Cable's identity had no business being that sweet. Hope she...

I don't mind so much that Cyke didn't take Bishop's place in the future. Bishop's the one that knows who to ask and where to go. We can play this game and ask why didn't Maddie go instead of Bishop?...

Did... Yanna ever appear in TAS? Man, Morph is a walking cameo!

Like I said-- I can't remember the specifics of how the TAS Phoenix Saga went down.

In the comic version, Maddie came along after Jean died. Then, Jean gets revived and Maddie is revealed to be...

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Everything from Whedon's Astonishing to Gillen's UXM, for me.

But gun to my head and I need to choose one, then it's Messiah Complex.

I'm sure I'm not in the minority that doesn't remember how the TAS Phoenix Saga ended. That being said, I'm also curious how different '97s take on the Maddie / Scott / Jean thing will go.

What's...

Tyke-23 will always be the ship that got away, for me.

Same with Evo Scott / Rogue.

Give Scott his goth girl and just roll with it, Marvel!