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  1. Seems like I've heard before this was a really...

    Seems like I've heard before this was a really good Guy characterization. But I just can't make myself read the retconned-hybrid-alien thing. It's just a retcon too far for me. I can't get past the...
  2. Favorite era/supporting cast for Guy Gardner?

    I've read a little Guy, but not a lot. What is your favorite era/writer/characterization for him? Location? Supporting cast?

    I kind of like the idea of Guy/Tora, so the JLI has some merit but...
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    Ah, but did she like him before or after? I...

    Ah, but did she like him before or after? I didn't read, so don't know, but a lot of people only like one version or the other, not both. Like, for me, he's Kon, not Conner. I like a particular...
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    Sad for me, since I like original origin. I think...

    Sad for me, since I like original origin. I think the Kryptonian-Luthor setup will stick because it's popular, even though I don't like it. But the hopeful part of me says DC cares so little...
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    I'm very interested in how that will play out and...

    I'm very interested in how that will play out and what the story will be. I admit I'm fond of the earlier Superboy who was less connected
    (genetically and emotionally) to Clark and to the Kents...
  6. I prefer the trunks, but am okay without them. ...

    I prefer the trunks, but am okay without them. Don't like blue boots.
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    When was that retcon? Because he indicated...

    When was that retcon? Because he indicated himself as an architect, not student, when he was chosen. You could read it as him thinking about the future, but that's a real stretch since he's talking...
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    Yeah, but that was kind of a retcon all its own,...

    Yeah, but that was kind of a retcon all its own, because no one else that was the same age as him aged that much/visibly.



    This is itself a retcon - as I've already pointed, out, John was at...
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    Yes, John was definitely younger when...

    Yes, John was definitely younger when introduced. But he was retconned younger (or Hal older) a bit later. That "you were 12" comment about him when Hal got his ring and all. And the idea he's...
  10. That gives it a whiff of "destiny" or...

    [quote]That gives it a whiff of "destiny" or "chosenness" to me, which I don't like for any characters (I do hate prophecy) since nobody else is getting dropped of on the island....actually, I guess...
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    I thought he was still a lottery winner then (I...

    I thought he was still a lottery winner then (I know he lost money at some point, but then came into more money somehow).
  12. I don't like that origin (though the actually NTT...

    I don't like that origin (though the actually NTT story was great), because I don't like Diana over 100 years old (well, not that long in man's world, anyway). I like her as a peer of Superman and...
  13. This is true. Which was sort of poked fun at...

    This is true. Which was sort of poked fun at back in the bronze age (when both Hawkman and Hawkwoman ended up on the team).

    I don't want Vic in the League because I don't think it serves him...
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    This is a discussion board. Not a praise board. ...

    This is a discussion board. Not a praise board. People are discussing, and that's entirely appropriate.

    I'm not buying or reading the titles I don't like, but I am keeping up with what's...
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    I agree with your assessment of how many at DC...

    I agree with your assessment of how many at DC and the characters (and many fans) don't see a problem. I'm just saying it works for me in the sense that it seems in-character. Though not in the...
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    Thanks for the reminder - I looked it up once...

    Thanks for the reminder - I looked it up once - there are a lot of models among the DC superheroines. Some of the guys took a turn, too.
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    Thought I was the only one who didn't like the...

    Thought I was the only one who didn't like the canonization of Alfred (that's been going on for a while). I'm admittedly more interested in editorial and fans not treating him always right (in terms...
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    A bit off topic, Icefan, but since you are a fan,...

    A bit off topic, Icefan, but since you are a fan, would you know if she ever held any other paying occupation other than superhero? Or ever expressed an interest in any sort of ordinary work?
  19. Three new origin stories in less than 10 years. ...

    Three new origin stories in less than 10 years. I mean, at least hers keeps the same basic idea, mostly (poor Donna), but it's still ridiculous. I might be happier with it if I thought I was going...
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    True. Though sometimes clothes and hair date a...

    True. Though sometimes clothes and hair date a series, anyway :)

    Really, though, even relative earnings ("less than an accountant","barely more than secretary", etc.) would be appreciated.
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    JLI/Global Guardians/etc.

    For those groups in which members received salaries for being superheroes - did we ever get an idea how much they were paid?
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    True. But I disregard them sometimes. Because...

    True. But I disregard them sometimes. Because they are bonkers. But I use most of them. But Diana at 6'2" would be in the same percentile as a 6'8" man, and that's too tall for me. Maps is way...
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    I knew it was sometime N52 - didn't realize...

    I knew it was sometime N52 - didn't realize Rebirth. Sorry if I was unclear about that - was trying to say that it wouldn't have made sense post-COIE when she was introduced (not that that would...
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    Yeah, DC was fine with weakening those family...

    Yeah, DC was fine with weakening those family bonds. And eliminating Cass's entirely. Disliked Damian and "one son" idea we saw.



    It's a relative age that wouldn't have made sense in post-COIE...
  25. I remember her. She really doesn't count for...

    I remember her. She really doesn't count for this thread "those that were around several years, but plenty of casual fans have never even heard of. And few mention them in discussion." As far as I...
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