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    Poll: It's tough as he goes so far back. Maybe the...

    It's tough as he goes so far back. Maybe the massive bulk will help as he comes on right where the golden age omni collections just ended. Though he's pretty decently collected already.

    Morrison...
  2. He had a newspaper run from 1939 to periods in...

    He had a newspaper run from 1939 to periods in the 70s, it can't get more commercial or (imo) better

    Superman gets knocked for his origins, but that's just what people like. Easiest to digest...
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    Poll: Byrne came away from the experience with a lot of...

    Byrne came away from the experience with a lot of regret. There were few real missteps but it's always sounded like part of it was not being able to control some of the things he wanted to control....
  4. - the birthing matrix allowed to have it both...

    - the birthing matrix allowed to have it both ways: makes him immediately more alien to us than a naturally born child who's been shuttled, but also with the idea of the snowstorm it allows him to...
  5. Metallo has had a number of gimmicks over the...

    Metallo has had a number of gimmicks over the years not related to a kryptonite heart. But it had to be a difficult gimmick to separate from him many years ago, before TAS came along to cement what...
  6. Moore pulled off what had to be the most...

    Moore pulled off what had to be the most interesting KM moment. Morrison though, I think should be blamed for bringing the character back in such a weak way. I think his redundancy during Action...
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    Poll: Up to the 2000s these writers tended to be unsung...

    Up to the 2000s these writers tended to be unsung to the extent that it even slips my mind that Bates did #385-387.

    Conway and Pasko were great at coming up with challenges and longer plots. I...
  8. There were a few Kryptonite Men and I don't think...

    There were a few Kryptonite Men and I don't think the Metallo "family" made them redundant, but it's hard enough either getting writers or readers to care about Superman villains.

    Like you can...
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    Poll: Ironically I think Bates is one of the few people...

    Ironically I think Bates is one of the few people who doesn't possess strong exhibits. His work across so many years was so consistently imaginative that it's hard to point. Maggin and Morrison to...
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    Poll: I picked Bates, overall he's my favorite Superman...

    I picked Bates, overall he's my favorite Superman writer and deep down I hope he gets another project. But I don't think, for all his stories, he's had the same focus on character. There are so many...
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    With pre crisis Superboy and Dominus coming...

    With pre crisis Superboy and Dominus coming back... I know Generations or whatever is just another fleeting thing but I hope we're getting a future uncapped
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    Poll: From his run #90, 93, 95, 100, 107, 112 and...

    From his run #90, 93, 95, 100, 107, 112 and 123-127 are the best I'd say without the context of the other titles. Steel and Natasha were really big characters with him and #112 is one of my favorites...
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    Poll: I think it's a little unfair to list reboot...

    I think it's a little unfair to list reboot writers because they get to define the character.

    Cary Bates is maybe the most prolific but didn't focus on the character so much as his stories. Maggin...
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    Jeez this thread. No, continuity had gone through...

    Jeez this thread. No, continuity had gone through a completely different shift by then.
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    Yeah I have just read much, much worse from...

    Yeah I have just read much, much worse from Austen and even ordinarily strong writers like JMS.



    That wasn't part of Action, it was a Man of Steel one off. I didn't like that comic really but...
  16. That really is a promising looking start... from...

    That really is a promising looking start... from like, no Superman anything in 16 years.
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    My point is that Austen receives more than due...

    My point is that Austen receives more than due hate for his run based on who he is on a character not all that popular in the first place, so the extreme reaction to me doesn't really point to the...
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    Adam was involved in a retcon, but not erased...

    Adam was involved in a retcon, but not erased like Jerry. Originally Cat worked to cope with what happened and moved forward in the supporting cast while Schott went between hard time and an elevated...
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    It was ignored because continuity was knocked for...

    It was ignored because continuity was knocked for a loop, not singled out. That's not really a fair assessment of the relationship between Austen and IC... who addressed the Ross split before Rucka...
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    Yeah he was retconned around then to be Clark's...

    Yeah he was retconned around then to be Clark's age.

    Lena though was an infant after Our Worlds at War, so it wasn't age, but they phased out all of the older Metropolis plots to streamline.
  21. Vs Muhammad Ali is one

    Vs Muhammad Ali is one
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    Preus was a Kandorian cult leader who killed a...

    Preus was a Kandorian cult leader who killed a woman during sex as he had the powers of Superman, a lack of knowledge about humans, and the indifference of his own actions. An Austen idea, sure......
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    I only have like two issues of Metropolis. It was...

    I only have like two issues of Metropolis. It was alright but could easily go in any direction.

    His Action run is a very unfortunate case. Austen has easily written some of the worst comics I've...
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    Awww beat me to this and the post crisis arc....

    Awww beat me to this and the post crisis arc. Some of my favorites of all time.
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    That's a weird misconception. DKR itself had...

    That's a weird misconception. DKR itself had nothing to do with post crisis and neither did Kara during Crisis... if we're talking about upstaging. Wolfman doubled down on that specific idea when he...
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