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The movie itself seemed to suggest an alternate continuity (especially with the in-universe X-men comics, which Logan says are unreliable in a very meta way). There were the references to X1 and I...

I agree on 15 years from FF # 1 to today, but I just can't buy 10 years from UXM # 1 to the start of Krakoa (and what, a year or two since?)

Anyway, I guess when it comes down to it different...

Not applying real-world dates to the timeline per se. I'm trying to examine Claremont's authorial intent. Writing in the early 80's, and tying Xavier and Magneto's histories to WW2, how old did he...

To be honest, I haven't been following too many of the recent comics. But if I can venture a guess, it might simply be that Cable and Bishop have, over time, become more popular and 'marketable'...

Interesting.

I suppose its possible that back in the 60's, Stan and Jack intended Xavier to be 30-something. I mean, back in the days of "don't trust anyone over 30", I suppose a guy in his...

Funny thing is, James McAvoy is now in the right age range for that kind of Xavier ;) Actually, he arguably was in that age range even with Apocalypse and Dark Phoenix.

Thing is, we've all been...

Honestly, one of the things I'd really like the MCU to do (though I doubt they'd go down that route) is to interrogate Xavier's 'dream' and the X-men mission a little bit. A little deconstruction of...

I think that's a neat way of looking at DC/Marvel continuity.

Another way of looking at it is what are the developments that truly have weight and become 'canon' - not in the "what's in continuity...

I'm a bit torn on this subject. I kinda want Mr. Sinister as the Big Bad of the first reboot movie, but I also want to touch upon the human vs. mutant conflict and I don't think Mr. Sinister...

True. In fact, I'm hoping that Weapon X is a going concern in the present-day MCU as well, and something that possibly Mr. Sinister is tied up with.

And as I think I've established, Weapon X was...

Considering that, its really commendable that Robert Pattison, in The Batman, spent a significant chunk of his screentime (most of it?) in the cowl - eschewing the long-standing maskless trend.
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Interesting thought.

My idea for the X-men movie is a kind of loose adaptation of Giant Size X-men # 1, except that Xavier is kidnapped by Sinister and so Cyclops is the one who needs to do the...

Yeah honestly that's how I'd do it if I had my druthers.

I'd have the main X-men reboot film with Mr. Sinister as the Big Bad. Maybe hint at the Weapon X project and/or efforts by various...

Yeah...but the fact that they're sticking with Holland to continue the story of his Peter into college, rather than recasting/rebooting to get another high-school Peter, is encouraging ;)

True.

Kinda ironic how DC and Marvel cling to superheroes being perpetually in their 20's or 30's (not even the latter in the case of Spider-Man!) like a a drowning man clinging to a liferaft,...

I'm all for it :D

How many significant X-men characters haven't been seen in live-action before at all?

Can't think of too many who would also be likely contenders for a movie reboot.

Rachel Summers perhaps? But...

Yeah I get what you mean.

That said, if GOTG could become the tremendous success that it did with a bunch of virtual unknowns, then I think the X-men could also be tremendously successful even...

His personality being similar to Wolverine could help if Logan himself doesn't appear in the first film. Though this does pose a problem for when Logan inevitably does join the team...

Did Claremont really suggest all that? First I've heard of it!

Funny thing is, they're in a better position now to do an X-men film set in the DOFP future than ever before, perhaps, if they can...

An interesting point came up earlier in the thread - should Wolverine be part of the team in the first X-men reboot film?

I actually think, for a number of reasons, it might not be the worst idea...

Yeah, I loved those as well. Mind you, I was a kid so my standards weren't the highest...but the standards for superhero films in general weren't the highest back then anyway :p

Precisely the problem I have with people taking the 'mutant metaphor' too literally and applying it to a specific real-world faultline (in this case, race). Especially in the polarized times we live...

Yeah. These are pretty light, episodic tales set during an era of relatively light stories and minimal serialization so I don't think 'canon' becomes too much of an issue either way. They also have...

I seriously doubt we're gonna get the O5 (except maybe in flashbacks or a prequel Disney+ series or whatever if the X-men are already well-established in the present-day). Most likely we'll get...