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  1. He might be getting a pass based on their...

    He might be getting a pass based on their collective history.
  2. Politely... A few of us have had this exact...

    Politely...

    A few of us have had this exact conversation once already.

    If you are really interested in what folks think, I could try to dig up one of the many many threads that it drug off of...
  3. Man, this is right down to the exact grumbles...

    Man, this is right down to the exact grumbles...
  4. Again, read The Rise Of Apocalypse. The idea...

    Again, read The Rise Of Apocalypse.

    The idea that he has "Never..." been who this person is only true for as long as you are willing to set aside that it is right there plain as day in his origin...
  5. The folks claiming it is somehow "Out Of...

    The folks claiming it is somehow "Out Of Character..." when it is obviously rooted in his origin.
  6. Not when you factor his actual origin in.

    Not when you factor his actual origin in.
  7. There has been lot of grumbling about how those...

    There has been lot of grumbling about how those who have not been held to account are in leadership positions on Krakoa.

    Well...

    Accountability just rang the doorbell.
  8. Just to point this out... ...

    Just to point this out...

    https://community.cbr.com/showthread.php?119641-The-CBR-Community-STANDARDS-amp-RULES
  9. Well... This looks a bit familiar...

    Well...

    This looks a bit familiar...
  10. Four issue late nineties limited series. While...

    Four issue late nineties limited series. While I'm not a hundred percent, I believe that there is a "Collection" TPB.

    https://www.marvel.com/comics/issue/60189/rise_of_apocalypse_1996_1

    One...
  11. Have you read The Rise Of Apocalypse? This...

    Have you read The Rise Of Apocalypse?

    This literally was pulled right from the pages of that series.
  12. Same logic as mayo on a fried bologna sandwich. ...

    Same logic as mayo on a fried bologna sandwich.

    Makes about as close to complete sense as anything involving hot dogs or bologna ever will.
  13. No. That said, I think that the buck stops at...

    No.

    That said, I think that the buck stops at the city making the sensible call. The responsibility for the eventual jobs lost realistically goes no higher than that.

    It is a city deciding to...
  14. Which is not to say I don't understand what...

    Which is not to say I don't understand what Chicago is doing. Honestly, I would probably have clamped down a little harder than they did.

    That said, I wouldn't really be looking to put the blame...
  15. It's not fair to blame him "Entirely" when he...

    It's not fair to blame him "Entirely" when he cannot dictate that the city of Chicago cannot decide it's own guidelines(which are going to put Southport Lanes out of business...)

    It is a city...
  16. Never mind places like Southport Lanes closing up...

    Never mind places like Southport Lanes closing up for good...

    https://chicago.eater.com/2020/9/17/21441478/southport-lanes-bar-bowling-billiards-closing-lakeview
  17. For Chicago as a specific example. This article...

    For Chicago as a specific example. This article is pretty solid. It just doesn't make any sense to put the jobs that are going to stay on the shelf on Trump when this is clearly a call that venues...
  18. Still a lot of "Maybe..." there, and it does...

    Still a lot of "Maybe..." there, and it does nothing to reopen the places in Illinois that have said that they fully intend to stay closed until the state's numbers on occupancy are at least up to a...
  19. If the lead had been "You Will Keep Business Open...

    If the lead had been "You Will Keep Business Open To Protect Minority Jobs...", do you honestly believe for even a half a second that New York or Illinois would have even considered following that...
  20. Can I see where he has specifically stated that...

    Can I see where he has specifically stated that he would raise the taxes of folks that aren't doing well?

    Never mind that Trump having not executed a plan to reduce health care costs while he had...
  21. Politely... We are talking about a situation...

    Politely...

    We are talking about a situation where individual states were largely allowed to make their own calls on how things were going to go.

    Wouldn't putting the blame squarely on the...
  22. Seriously?

    Seriously?
  23. https://www.cbr.com/how-did-cable-get-the-name-cab...

    https://www.cbr.com/how-did-cable-get-the-name-cable/
  24. Luckily, nothing that is anything like that is...

    Luckily, nothing that is anything like that is actually happening in the current titles.
  25. Took the words right out of my mouth. It's...

    Took the words right out of my mouth.

    It's kind of like White Castles. Very little fence sitting. Only the folks who love them and the folks who can't understand why anyone could love that...
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