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  1. That the idea of marrying Peter and MJ would have...

    That the idea of marrying Peter and MJ would have occurred to someone in editorial at some point seems inevitable. Peter did previously propose to MJ after all.

    So it's safe to say that this was...
  2. You tried to depict the motivation for the...

    You tried to depict the motivation for the Spider-Marriage as a response to an irresistible tsunami of fan enthusiasm, not "if this one guy hadn't asked a question at a convention, the marriage...
  3. From you, maybe. Somehow Quesada will have to...

    From you, maybe.

    Somehow Quesada will have to carry on.

    Other people, of course, aren't so uptight.

    They realize that not every story is going to land as planned.

    They realize that...
  4. They are not different. They are all stories...

    They are not different. They are all stories meant to generate excitement from readers by promising big changes. To pretend otherwise is disingenuous.



    ...In your opinion. Not everyone shares...
  5. HoX/PoX was preceded by an X-Men Disassembled...

    HoX/PoX was preceded by an X-Men Disassembled storyline, as well as a sprawling alt world Age of X storyline, with multiple titles involved - all of which fed into the "End of an Era" marketing...
  6. Co-signed on all counts.

    Co-signed on all counts.
  7. Sometimes things don't happen until it occurs to...

    Sometimes things don't happen until it occurs to a writer to make it happen, like putting Spidey on the Avengers full time.

    This does not constitute proof of a conspiracy or of corporate...
  8. Like HoX/PoX/Dawn of X? Like that? Is Marvel...

    Like HoX/PoX/Dawn of X? Like that?

    Is Marvel astro-turfing the X-Men's success?

    Is the Hickman era just a stunt or event meant to artificially force readers into loving the X-Men?

    How...
  9. Exactly. No way Tony's ego allows for that.

    Exactly. No way Tony's ego allows for that.
  10. That evades your main point that the goal of...

    That evades your main point that the goal of these stories was primarily to make The Avengers and Iron Man more popular than The X-Men.

    Kind of a stupid goal for a company to have, don't you...
  11. According to you, Marvel's masterplan was to tell...

    According to you, Marvel's masterplan was to tell bad stories whose sole purpose was to force readers to love Avengers, Iron Man and Spider-Man more than The X-Men.

    And this masterplan was...
  12. No, it actually doesn't confirm that at all.

    No, it actually doesn't confirm that at all.
  13. Yeah, I don't think this would go ahead if...

    Yeah, I don't think this would go ahead if Hickman wasn't happy with the pitch.

    Personally I think it sounds fun. As someone who's entry into the X-universe was the original NM run, I'm always...
  14. I have no way of knowing for certain which of us...

    I have no way of knowing for certain which of us is right. It's not really important, in the end.

    There is no way to know the full truth of the situation so it's proper to regard all of it as...
  15. You proved that Quesada wanted a moratorium on...

    You proved that Quesada wanted a moratorium on new mutants.

    Which makes sense seeing as House of M was about reducing the number of mutants in the MU.

    You concocting a conspiratorial...
  16. No, I'm directly addressing them. Unlike you,...

    No, I'm directly addressing them.

    Unlike you, I don't read people's word through a mental filter where I imagine that they're saying something they're not and denying what's right in front of me....
  17. The only one living in a dreamland is you. ...

    The only one living in a dreamland is you.

    The rest of us are living in the real world.

    And living in the real world means that you don't wildly speculate and project based on limited data...
  18. It gave it a new status quo that, in the end, was...

    It gave it a new status quo that, in the end, was not conducive to great storylines. But that's not the same as deliberately neutering a line.

    Sometimes writers and editors decide on a direction...
  19. Well, the Stones could certainly make a very...

    Well, the Stones could certainly make a very strong case that they're the greatest living rock band.

    If they weren't, they sure couldn't charge the ticket prices that they do and still fill...
  20. FF and X-Men have had some great runs but a LOT...

    FF and X-Men have had some great runs but a LOT of mediocrity. The FF bore the slogan of "World's Greatest Comics Magazine" for years after it no longer deserved it.

    And most would agree that...
  21. Again, false. One could make an argument that...

    Again, false. One could make an argument that Spidey has had the most consistently solid creative runs of any Marvel book but after that, it's hard - if not impossible - to make a serious case that...
  22. Because Mackie's run wasn't good. Hence the need...

    Because Mackie's run wasn't good. Hence the need for JMS to come in and save the book.



    Everyone agrees that the Clone Saga was a botch job.

    Even the fans who enjoyed aspects of it agree...
  23. Yes, that's exactly what you do. Or, rather than...

    Yes, that's exactly what you do. Or, rather than "making stuff up," simply making assertions that hold no weight.

    Like this:



    You're saying that the success of The Avengers and Tony Stark...
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    Didn't the Punisher kill the Mandarin at the...

    Didn't the Punisher kill the Mandarin at the start of one of Frank's recent storylines? That's the last I remember seeing him.
  25. No, JMS single-handedly salvaged Spider-Man from...

    No, JMS single-handedly salvaged Spider-Man from the disaster that was the Mackie/Byrne relaunch.

    The Clone Saga wasn't even an issue by the time JMS arrived.

    Believe me, I was there. I know....
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