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    I've been thinking about X-Factor #4 a lot since...

    I've been thinking about X-Factor #4 a lot since it happened. I've been doing most of my talking about it elsewhere, but I do feel like there's something I should add here.

    So in X-Factor #4, we...
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    It seems they took an approach of introducing...

    It seems they took an approach of introducing Lorna in her iconic outfit with the idea that it would allow casual readers to recognize her presence, followed by a shift over to X-Factor's outfit with...
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    A mutual on Tumblr found and shared the panels. ...

    A mutual on Tumblr found and shared the panels.

    https://i.imgur.com/bQFlamF.png

    I thought there was a chance maybe the art had something that could lead to a different interpretation, but now I...
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    Thanks for sharing the context and the quote. ...

    Thanks for sharing the context and the quote.

    Not really surprised that Marvel's again trying to force the pairing with this kind of dialogue to remind people.

    Interesting that they're trying...
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    Link not working but I assume it's because of...

    Link not working but I assume it's because of something weird with CBR's handling of some links like we've seen before.

    Seeing the exchange would be needed to interpret. Framing could present this...
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    Marvel seems to have a lot of things they miss,...

    Marvel seems to have a lot of things they miss, whether it's obvious mishaps like wrong face to a name, or miscommunication among people, or missing how a certain plot point or line of dialogue is...
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    A situation like this would provide an opening...

    A situation like this would provide an opening for Marvel to say Pestilence can change as desired, but realistically Marvel's likely going to go with just one and say the other was a mistake.
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    Hickman got rid of his Twitter account a while...

    Hickman got rid of his Twitter account a while back, but I'm pretty sure he wouldn't have an answer or he wouldn't answer it. I expect she's not on the list because they either didn't think of her...
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    The "crying" is one thing that bothered me but...

    The "crying" is one thing that bothered me but I'm not going to make a big deal out of. In the original image, her expression comes across more as anguished but strong, whereas the new art has a much...
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    Creators and companies have common, repetitive...

    Creators and companies have common, repetitive assumptions and tropes that they engage in. This is part of why there was pushback within Marvel against the idea of Lorna and Wanda both being...
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    I mean, of course at the point in time of...

    I mean, of course at the point in time of Giant-Size, Lorna wouldn't have been able to throw Krakoa into space by herself. At the same time, "help lift" implies she was just assisting other...
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    https://i.imgur.com/OoAwfdq.jpg by Boyce...

    https://i.imgur.com/OoAwfdq.jpg

    by Boyce
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    I can't embed a Tumblr video here so I'm just...

    I can't embed a Tumblr video here so I'm just going to share the link. It's not actually a Magnus family thing, but I'm having fun imagining it is because of the colors.
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  14. I think only the second quote could be...

    I think only the second quote could be potentially picked up as a clue, and as a clue, it's vague enough that a reader could take it as simply saying she thinks Saturnyne will have more prophecies to...
  15. Whatever the reason for Lorna's behavior, the...

    Whatever the reason for Lorna's behavior, the context to understand why she's behaving that way is needed. Saturnyne affecting Lorna's mind is a possibility (I noted it as an option in the Polaris...
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    I think it is worth me saying something given...

    I think it is worth me saying something given past comments I made.

    I didn't think I could trust Marvel to retain Lorna's role in this tribute given past Marvel behavior. Marvel has a history of...
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    Thanks on the avatar change. I guess I may as...

    Thanks on the avatar change. I guess I may as well say the Saturnyne stuff, not because XoS is plotted out but because Marvel isn't going to care.

    Saturnyne put the prophecies in Lorna's head...
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    I've seen more pages. I have more things to say....

    I've seen more pages. I have more things to say.

    Handling a character with their trauma kept in consideration is difficult. Getting their voice right can be difficult. Different people are...
  19. But you need to be a hardcore Marvel fan to get...

    But you need to be a hardcore Marvel fan to get that "subtlety." Casual readers need not apply, just go ahead and assume there's no reason for her to behave the way she does.
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    Waiting to see more. What I'll say so far is...

    Waiting to see more.

    What I'll say so far is that trying to claim Lorna's reaction is due to her experience with the Genoshan genocide while the issue doesn't at even one single point actually...
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    I've seen the same behavior with several other...

    I've seen the same behavior with several other companies, yes, which is part of why I can see a lot of the insincerity with Marvel. Awareness of behavior in one place makes it easier to see the same...
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    It started out as just related to treatment of...

    It started out as just related to treatment of Lorna. It's increasingly become Marvel as a whole these past few years.

    In the beginning, I was fairly optimistic with the idea that if people at...
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    I'm generally very pessimistic about Marvel as a...

    I'm generally very pessimistic about Marvel as a result of my experiences with the company these past 11 years, especially since 2017. But, I also understand people being optimistic when they haven't...
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    Cross-post

    Cross-post
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    Lorna and Wanda fanart...

    Lorna and Wanda fanart by asinoeiv

    https://i.imgur.com/BpGMCIF.jpg
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