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    Has this origin made her someone else?

    Has this origin made her someone else?
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    Thank you, this is the best/logical post on this!

    Thank you, this is the best/logical post on this!
  3. The southern states wouldn't even show that one...

    The southern states wouldn't even show that one time Kirk and Uhura kissed I think.
  4. I'm sorry, I didn't really manage to follow that....

    I'm sorry, I didn't really manage to follow that. I'm not sure how Superman mismanagement related to R-rated movies and a Hitman vs Deadpool 3 and...yeah, I apologize but I'm confused here.
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    I can see that. The DCEU movies have been very...

    I can see that. The DCEU movies have been very mixed, so that kind of lends itself more to liking some stuff than a whole movie.
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    Exactly - it's not her DNA that's her origin, its...

    Exactly - it's not her DNA that's her origin, its her relationships. Wonder Woman was raised by strong women - Superman by a kindly farming couple with midwestern values - Bruce by loving parents who...
  7. Man, that Star Trek episode was so cheesy with...

    Man, that Star Trek episode was so cheesy with that white/black makeup, but that was some well done messaging for the time. Almost 60 years later though and sadly that message is still needed now.
  8. Yep, bingo. Of course Disney would infuse it with...

    Yep, bingo. Of course Disney would infuse it with that MCU house style quippy/snarky comedy, but I'd gladly take that for a Superman who's just a good heroic guy who just has fun with being a good...
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    This is the only argument against the Zeus origin...

    This is the only argument against the Zeus origin that resonates with me. Although it still relies too heavily on the symbology of things for my tastes - I prefer more plot/story arguments over...
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    I think that's the problem - stuff that focuses...

    I think that's the problem - stuff that focuses on that origin. I feel the origin is fine - I think the focus on it ever since and the more mythological/godly angle hasn't been fine. If you don't...
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    I don't see why not - Joker acknowledged Batman...

    I don't see why not - Joker acknowledged Batman after all.
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    Basically this yeah. He's not a big blockbuster...

    Basically this yeah. He's not a big blockbuster kind of actor, but he said he really got into character, had fun on set and with Phillips, tossed some sequel ideas around with Phillips before, and...
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    So it's basically your version of my multi-paged...

    So it's basically your version of my multi-paged Godzilla series treatment (I need to find that harddrive and update it...).

    So knowing you don't like my favorite DC movie of the last decade,...
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    It's okay, like I said in the pm I probably...

    It's okay, like I said in the pm I probably overreacted a bit, but the real world nature of Epstein's crimes just...brings out a strong reaction in me. It shocked me, but cooling down I know you...
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    Zeus doesn't really exist though, but there are...

    Zeus doesn't really exist though, but there are real world victims of Epstein, so...\_(ツ)_/
    (seriously, it just seems a step to far bringing real world rapists of real underage girls into...
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    Eh, nah. I'm getting at that point in the evening...

    Eh, nah. I'm getting at that point in the evening where I don't wanna make big debate posts.
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    She might not die, I think she will, but maybe...

    She might not die, I think she will, but maybe not. But she's going to go away for some reason for sure. And yeah, she's going to do more than give Ryan her blessing - she's going to tell Ryan quite...
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    No, there's not - comparing a mythological...

    No, there's not - comparing a mythological ancient figure to real world bigots and recent sexual predator is just...yeah, no.
    Seriously, holy fuck man, Epstein???



    I'm sorry, but I just don't...
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    I agree - we just differ on whether her parentage...

    I agree - we just differ on whether her parentage changes the product of an all female society or not. I don't think it does change that aspect - you do. We agree on the fundamental part of the...
  20. Yeah - the MCU is successful, and it's quality is...

    Yeah - the MCU is successful, and it's quality is consistent - but dear lord there's too much MCU. And now there's gonna be like 4 films a year plus streaming series?
    At some point all media will be...
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    What makes Joker lazy versus other remakes?

    What makes Joker lazy versus other remakes?
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    I'd argue that the whole fantasy is not how she...

    I'd argue that the whole fantasy is not how she was created - it's how she was raised. She was born into and raised by a matriarchal and feminist society free of the influence and sins of man, who...
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    Please, don't. Don't even try and use that sort...

    Please, don't. Don't even try and use that sort of tactic against me. It's disingenuous and beneath the standards of any good faith or friendly debates. If you really want me to argue why it's...
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    To be fair, that sentence can just as easily be...

    To be fair, that sentence can just as easily be applied to the clay origin as well - that part of the mythos isn't important. Clay or Zeus, her birth is the least important aspect of her origin...
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    I haven't seen the movie yet (waiting for the DVD...

    I haven't seen the movie yet (waiting for the DVD to go dirt cheap after reading reviews), but I doubt that Diana as a rapist is because of the Zeus origin and would instead blame terrible, terrible,...
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