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    But when it's mostly or only the villains who...

    But when it's mostly or only the villains who care about anything, it doesn't send a good message. Why not have one of the heroes try to stand up for something, and the villain be the one who's...
  2. Isn't it though? It seems to be a common...

    Isn't it though? It seems to be a common recurring thing about the F4



    Sue definitely needs more. I'm not sure what her personality or job or motivation is.
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    Well, it's not Marvel if superheroes aren't...

    Well, it's not Marvel if superheroes aren't somehow persecuted for having superpowers
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    But racism still exists. It's not going to...

    But racism still exists. It's not going to disappear because of the snap, and the MCU wanted to deal with racial issues in FaWS.
  5. I just think the nuclear family-esque concept is...

    I just think the nuclear family-esque concept is dated in the way it's often done. Batman and Spider-Man are singular characters who join big groups. Whereas F4 is a static team that lacks diversity...
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    I feel like 616 Pietro tends to be a bit more edgy

    I feel like 616 Pietro tends to be a bit more edgy
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    I somehow doubt that

    I somehow doubt that
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    That's true but the heroes don't always seem to...

    That's true but the heroes don't always seem to think about doing anything until the villains come along. All I'm saying is I'd like to see some proactive heroes. Most people fighting for issues in...
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    But then the villains become killers and...

    But then the villains become killers and terrorists so how relatable is that in the end? All it does it make the heroes look like they don't care until someone who does goes too far.
  10. Well, there's a difference between being...

    Well, there's a difference between being influential, and being relevant or still workable.
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    I guess the SSS impaired his judgement. He...

    I guess the SSS impaired his judgement.



    He wasn't fighting back, though
  12. I see. Yeah, that's true. While nostalgia can be...

    I see. Yeah, that's true. While nostalgia can be a limiting factor, it also serves as a convenient cover for some fans' bigotry towards newer and more diverse characters
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    I guess they were always meant to be villains but...

    I guess they were always meant to be villains but the MCU seems to take these villains, give vaguely good aims, then make them into murderers to justify the heroes. Instead of, you know, making the...
  14. I grew up with three brothers. That's how I know...

    I grew up with three brothers. That's how I know how to fix cars/computers/planes
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    Yeah, but that's what I'm criticizing. We're...

    Yeah, but that's what I'm criticizing. We're expected to sympathize with the Flag Smashers but they killed several people, including one of the recurring characters on the show, while showing little...
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    I think FaWS helped move things on to some...

    I think FaWS helped move things on to some extent, and I appreciate it attempting to address a real-world issue but in the MCU, but it was a bit clunky and underdeveloped. I think WandaVision and...
  17. Just to be certain, you're saying those obsessed...

    Just to be certain, you're saying those obsessed with nostalgia are being boorish, or those criticizing nostalgia?
  18. People criticize nostalgia because they feel it's...

    People criticize nostalgia because they feel it's holding comics back
  19. I realize it's from the 60s but I think the...

    I realize it's from the 60s but I think the comics should try to lessen that about Reed. Because for me, that does seem true to his character, but he doesn't seem to evolve. Sue being bland doesn't...
  20. "I did it because I love you!"

    "I did it because I love you!"
  21. Poll: Yeah, the problem is a lot of these static heroes...

    Yeah, the problem is a lot of these static heroes go through the same motions forever, or through some massive OOC change up to 'freshen things up'.
  22. The problem is his borderline sexist behavior is...

    The problem is his borderline sexist behavior is never really confronted. He acts uncaring and distant and Sue just stays with it. How's that a good relationship?
  23. "You're not my mom/dad"

    "You're not my mom/dad"
  24. I don't think he's overhated. He always seems...

    I don't think he's overhated. He always seems like a jerk to me. And he's never really called out on it because his family keeps coming back to him.
  25. Poll: I don't think Tony and Steve are nearly that much...

    I don't think Tony and Steve are nearly that much older than Peter (Steve technically is but doesn't look it)

    But I think they can do it gradually. If Peter is about 35 then Wanda and Pietro would...
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