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    Yes--this really comes across in Madeline...

    Yes--this really comes across in Madeline Miller's recent novel Circe, where despite being a daughter of Helios, Circe has the voice of a mortal and is more vulnerable than other gods. Her...
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    Thanks, and I see your point; I shouldn't have...

    Thanks, and I see your point; I shouldn't have said "the misogyny of the time," but "the misogyny of the culture." Edited!

    But, while I get that the Scythians seem to have been more...
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    I agree that the legends of the Amazons reflect...

    I agree that the legends of the Amazons reflect the misogyny of the culture in which those legends originated. I guess I thought Azz's idea was to imagine that the Amazon culture itself reflected...
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    Yes, there's no debating the fact that it's...

    Yes, there's no debating the fact that it's debateable, since we've debated it. ;)



    It definitely is funny how often they come back to this. Before "The Darkseid Wars," I wouldn't have said...
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    Glad you don't like the sound of this--not...

    Glad you don't like the sound of this--not because I'm mean, but because Robinson writing Wonder Woman sounds good to me, and it's been too long since you and I have argued! (I can't seriously...
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    There's always the idea--found in Sandman, for...

    There's always the idea--found in Sandman, for instance--that enough belief is powerful enough to change the past as well as the present and future. So, if enough people believe strongly enough that...
  7. Could happen. I didn't mean to sound like I was...

    Could happen. I didn't mean to sound like I was arguing with you--just pointing out what I saw. :)

    ETA: BatmanNotes.com is now confirming that at least some of the set photos were for JL:


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    I'm not sure, but I just figured Ares wasn't...

    I'm not sure, but I just figured Ares wasn't being that precise; maybe a demi-god is enough of a god to kill a fellow god, and, with apparently only two people of substantial Olympian descent left,...
  9. That's what I see, too. A couple of people have...

    That's what I see, too. A couple of people have read it as WWII, so I wonder if CBR originally said WWII and then silently corrected the typo.

    I think the German cross on the plane was the kind...
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    I pretty much agree with RealWonderman; I think...

    I pretty much agree with RealWonderman; I think that scene at least teased us with the prospect that she can fly.
  11. I don't know about WWII flashbacks; CBR's...

    I don't know about WWII flashbacks; CBR's speculation was that these scenes would be from WWI, and the plane in the set photo does have the kind of cross that was used during WWI and not WWII,
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  12. I'd like to see her WWII-era adventures at some...

    I'd like to see her WWII-era adventures at some point--but, if the success of this movie makes its likely that there may be several sequels instead of just one or two, maybe there's no rush. IF tht's...
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    While I won't say "best movie ever," I will say...

    While I won't say "best movie ever," I will say it's my favorite superhero movie ever. It was visually beautiful, musically stirring, well paced, with great dialogue and touches of humor, and the...
  14. Supposedly they "completely improvised" the boat...

    Supposedly they "completely improvised" the boat scene; see https://www.polygon.com/2017/6/9/15772134/wonder-woman-improv

    Granted, that's just one scene, albeit an important one. I don't know if...
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    Good points.

    Good points.
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    You're making an important point about mental...

    You're making an important point about mental health parity, but I have one (much less important) caveat: believe it or not, some Wonder Woman fans actually might, depending on the circumstances,...
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    This is an early contender for Understatement of...

    This is an early contender for Understatement of the Year. It's kind of like Dr. Poison saying "I love arsenic more than most."



    I haven't read the issue yet, but if a Steve-cetnric issue feels...
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    She's be considered white by, for example, the...

    She's be considered white by, for example, the U.S. Census Bureau definition, which includes, among others, people from all around the Mediterranean:

    "White. A person having origins in any of the...
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    I agree with just about all of this, though, to...

    I agree with just about all of this, though, to be honest, I think it's also clear that the attempt to give these women agency was about as minimal as it could possibly be without disappearing...
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    Sure, and one panel of standing silently in a...

    Sure, and one panel of standing silently in a circle and holding the lasso which Wonder Woman has tossed to Cheetah is better than nothing. Truly, it is; however minimal it may be, it's still a...
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    I see Pinsir's point. In my opinion, sure, she...

    I see Pinsir's point. In my opinion, sure, she can adventure in Africa, but when she does, it could be good to see her working with black African allies who make real impact. To me, the problem of...
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    LOL at the idea of the boar as guest. And sure,...

    LOL at the idea of the boar as guest. And sure, she'd know it's not done in this culture--though maybe she just thought it would be nice to bring a bit of her culture with her. After all, it's not...
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    I don't know about Max having made people forget...

    I don't know about Max having made people forget Checkmate. But considering that Sasha has that scar around her eye and apparently also some kind of a cybernetic master, I'd guess now that more of...
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    In that Word Balloon podast from just after...

    In that Word Balloon podast from just after Rebirth was announced, Rucka said this (around 75 or 76 minutes in, I think):

    “You know, Max is around in the New 52—he’s, he;s, around in this rebirth...
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    Poll: Seems like there could be a rating between...

    Seems like there could be a rating between "great" an "average"--like maybe "good." In the absence of "good," I went with "great," four stars.I liked the gods as animals, and I thought Diana's and...
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