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  1. Thread: Arrow

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    So on the new Earth Prime, they know Oliver died...

    So on the new Earth Prime, they know Oliver died in Crisis, correct? But only the Paragons and the ones Martian Manhunter gave their memories back know what that actually involved.

    Anyway I'd be...
  2. Eh, this kind of thing has been going on since...

    Eh, this kind of thing has been going on since long before memes anyway, and they're going to pop up no matter what's being done.

    "They are like children sitting in the marketplace and calling...
  3. Yeah, it would have been great to get an outside...

    Yeah, it would have been great to get an outside perspective. Got a bit of that in "Rules of Engagement" with Dick and Damian's conversation, but nothing too detailed.



    You know, on second...
  4. Yes. Earth 2's Bruce Wayne married Selina Kyle,...

    Yes. Earth 2's Bruce Wayne married Selina Kyle, had a daughter, retired and became the commissioner of police before he died.
  5. The Marvel comics have a story arc where Obi-Wan...

    The Marvel comics have a story arc where Obi-Wan protects Lars from some of Jabba's men, if memory serves.

    I think there's plenty of room for any kind of story they want to tell.
  6. True, but keep in mind that's typically delivered...

    True, but keep in mind that's typically delivered from their perspective. The concept of shared pain might be what rushes to the surface for both Bruce and Selina, but if you were to ask, say, Alfred...
  7. Ah, got it! I'm not an expert by any means but...

    Ah, got it! I'm not an expert by any means but from what little I know I get the impression that Selina began to be depicted as more moral in the 70s and 80s? Isn't that when Earth-2's Bruce was...
  8. Another point about King's run, I think there are...

    Another point about King's run, I think there are a lot of writers who are of the opinion that Bruce would do more good if he was a full-time philanthropist and quit Batman altogether. I don't think...
  9. I guess it depends on what aspect of her life we...

    I guess it depends on what aspect of her life we mean. I don't think she's more mature than Bruce or the Robins in terms of her commitment to something bigger than herself. But Bruce is a hard...
  10. I'm not disagreed with your overall point. I...

    I'm not disagreed with your overall point. I think Bruce and Selina save each other from their excesses. So both things are true.

    As far as Selina not caring about the consequences of her...
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    I think looking at the Bible through a binary...

    I think looking at the Bible through a binary saved/unsaved lens is extremely problematic. Salvation isn't an either/or proposition, it's a process by which humanity as a whole is perfected. The...
  12. Great point. Selina's worldview is ultimately a...

    Great point. Selina's worldview is ultimately a counterpoint to Bane's and a complement to Bruce's.

    She grew up in a harsh environment but found a way to navigate it without sacrificing her...
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    This is the first time I've watched Legends in a...

    This is the first time I've watched Legends in a long time and I've got to say it was hilarious.
  14. This is one of my favorite aspects of King's run....

    This is one of my favorite aspects of King's run. I love that King's Batman is honest about what's he willing to do to achieve his goals, going back to his speech to Catwoman in Arkham. Agreed that...
  15. Indeed! For me, personally, "I Am Bane" is...

    Indeed!



    For me, personally, "I Am Bane" is King's weakest Batman arc, keeping in mind that still puts it at around a 7 out of 10 for me. Maybe a 6.5 depending on my mood.

    The Good:

    --I...
  16. Definitely. God comes up a lot in King's work,...

    Definitely. God comes up a lot in King's work, and "The Best Man" and "Cold Days" were at the front of my mind when I made the connection.
  17. Thread: Arrow

    by David Walton
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    I think the spinoff could be a lot of fun. I...

    I think the spinoff could be a lot of fun. I certainly like the cast. I do think bringing in the pre-Crisis memories is potentially confusing. I was actually kind of excited about getting a clean...
  18. The line about Catwoman stealing the night makes...

    The line about Catwoman stealing the night makes me think of Kevin Conroy screaming, "I am vengeance. I am the night. I am Batman!" on B:TAS. Not to mention it's a triple "I am" statement, which is...
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    I love DeFalco's run! Maybe just my own bias, but...

    I love DeFalco's run! Maybe just my own bias, but I always assumed it was highly regarded. But I don't think it's discussed as much as it should be, because I'm not sure if you can ever discuss it...
  20. I love that analogy. On another note, I've...

    I love that analogy. On another note, I've recently been re-reading DC One Million, one of my favorite events.
  21. For me, personally, "Rooftops" is where King...

    For me, personally, "Rooftops" is where King takes his Batman run to the next level and it never lets up from there. I recently re-read THE VISION and King truly excels with romantic relationships,...
  22. LOL I didn't know that was ever in question!

    LOL I didn't know that was ever in question!
  23. So re-reading Vengeance of Bane and Knightfall...

    So re-reading Vengeance of Bane and Knightfall and I noticed/remembered that

    --When Bane escapes Pena Duro, he's naked, having been presumed dead and thrown to the sharks. He is still naked when...
  24. LOL I really need Tom King to write the short...

    LOL I really need Tom King to write the short story "Head Canon" now.
  25. Sooooo….is the Monitor still alive, and if so, is...

    Sooooo….is the Monitor still alive, and if so, is he a different version (since the Anti-Monitor said there would always be one in the Multi-verse to make his tragic mistake)?
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