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I'm excited to see how ToP will end, Ilk. This has been one of the best arcs I've seen in Dragon Ball Super. I don't know how they can top this, unless there is some series reset.

That exit was dignified. And you can't get mad at Dr. Paparoni. He put in some work.

You're right. Frieza knew.

Who do you think will win this tournament?

I think we'll see Jiren ring out a ton of people at the last minute.

Katopesla is going to win the tournament. Just watch.

He's held his own against Frieza, Vegeta and the Androids.

This was an awesome episode. Universe 6 needs to get erased to really pull on the heart strings.

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Yes. Beerus' respect and admiration for Goku was amazing. Plus the fear of the new form is real. Alas, Whis is happy and did his o-ho-ho laugh.

And yes, Jiren is worth the hype. Just unfreaking...

They've been featured prominently. They just want to chill in the cut.

Havok allied himself with Maddie and he was forgiven. He was with his brother's wife and the X-Men turned a blind eye to the transgressions.

Master Roshi made a mistake; admitted he was wrong; made it right; and stepped down from his position. If we all did that in life, how much better would society be? How much?

I actually liked this episode. It gave a realistic accounting of why Master Roshi should be in the tournament, and highlighted his strengths and weaknesses. Such an emotional episode.

His...

Todd McFarlane just wrote Spider-Man horribly. I remember one issue where Spider-Man tortured some homeless people for info to get Morbius. Then there was that ridiculous Rise Above It All that...

As you pointed out, Namor handled him in the 90s and he hasn't been back since. I miss that storyline. Namor teamed up with Doom and we got to see some great art from Jae Lee.

Yup. I think the main issue is, is that in Super we have seen how he acts in Peace time. We have more slice of life episodes that reveals how he constantly puts his family to the side to train and...

What happens if no one is eliminated before time is up? Does Zeno just erase them all? I literally went from carefree and happy about this arc, to sad, angry and depressed. Good story, but real...

No comment on it yet. I want to see this thing play out. The only form I ever found visually compelling was Super Sayain 4. I wish that could/would make an appearance here. Goku was no joke in that...

In size and scope this might be one of the biggest storylines for DragonBall yet. I don't think everyone is getting out alive after this one.

Plus is it just me or has Vegeta seen tremendous...

Frieza is the ultimate foil for the team. I love that they have included him. I'm glad that he has his own agenda and that this won't be a simple redemption storyline. Some people are just evil and...

Do we think that Zeno is being manipulated in this storyline, or is everything on the up and up.

In other words, is there a twist to the tournament? A sinister twist?

My old foe and charter member of the Ilk.... to find you here is sweet serendipity.

But onto business. Overall, I like what Super is doing with the tournament saga. We are really seeing some...

Some elements are hard. But the problem is the movies wanted to take too much from the ultimate versions of the characters.

I feel like they got Ben, Reed and Johnny with some missteps on Sue. ...

Spider-Man should be able to handle most with ease.

Marvel is backing itself into a corner. They have taken the everything changes mantra too far, and stretched some of their characters beyond visible recognition.

Doom as Iron Man. Prof. X,...

If I could access the old CBR posts of my Caps Ethics Thread you will see that I and I alone planted the seeds for Cap's heel turn.


No, but hopefully it will be forgotten quickly like the...

It really isn't. He used the Marauders to punish them. To make them do good after they had done wrong for so long.

Years ago on this thread before it was reset, I asked the question would Cap work as a villain. I even presented supporting evidence to say he was a bad guy. People nearly ran me off CBR and called...