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    Going up a few % is huge for DC, especially to...

    Going up a few % is huge for DC, especially to the point to where they were literally neck and neck with Marvel in 2012. Unless someone was somehow expecting DC for the entire year to be doing in 40%...
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    Oh You mean the full picture: 2010 MARKET...

    Oh You mean the full picture:

    2010

    MARKET SHARES
    Share of Overall Units
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    43.35%
    DC
    34.00%
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    No one disputed that much of the changes from New...

    No one disputed that much of the changes from New 52 was retcon out. Look at my previous posts. My post disputed your statement that New 52 changes were unsustainable and that's what caused the drop...
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    I think you're looking at the wrong page, or...

    I think you're looking at the wrong page, or you're being purposely obtuse. Click on Distributor By year, and you will clearly see an increase in DC market share in units from 9% between Marvel and...
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    That's false. 1st - New 52 started in...

    That's false.


    1st - New 52 started in September, 2011, not 2010. So up until then would have been pre flashpoint sales.

    2nd - DC was regularly competitive with Marvel, as even up to December...
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    Except it didn't, there was very little narrative...

    Except it didn't, there was very little narrative indication to prove that it wasn't suitable. We could use the same excuse you gave for Rebirth and apply it to New 52. But you're attempting to apply...
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    Partially yes. but it's also that New 52 selling...

    Partially yes. but it's also that New 52 selling better than rebirth contrast with the classic fan mentality of the drastic changes being the fall of New 52. For example, notice how you were quick to...
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    The changes from New 52 definitely varies, but...

    The changes from New 52 definitely varies, but seeing as the changes reverting back to more of a "status quo" is shown to be even less sustainable then the initial changes from New52, it definitely...
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    I honestly don't think so. New 52 essentially...

    I honestly don't think so. New 52 essentially proved that drastic changes to the DC Universe can bring you major success. With New 52 essentially being more successful sales wise than Rebirth, it...
  10. Agreed, one thing this book definitely does is...

    Agreed, one thing this book definitely does is the artist really hits it art of the park when it comes to storytelling paneling. He often has a movie feel that reminds me of Jason Fabok, they both...
  11. I meant to say the creators, referring to the...

    I meant to say the creators, referring to the comic book creator themselves.

    It is entirely a superiority complex, the ordeals transitioned from talking points about characters to about people...
  12. Well of course you do, you have such a...

    Well of course you do, you have such a superiority complex with you idea of what considered suitable characters that you attempt to downplay others who have a vested interest in characters that may...
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    Well to be honest, there are countries in Europe...

    Well to be honest, there are countries in Europe where 14-16 years old are considered legal age groups to date/marry. So I'm not too surprised, but that still doesn't change John Legend hypocrisy....
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    Youch, talk about a double standard lol. Though...

    Youch, talk about a double standard lol. Though to be honest, I didn't know Elvis was a child rapist. Did he issue an apology for his statement or did he try to sweep it under the rug?
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    Because there's actually people who are...

    Because there's actually people who are interested in the 5g thing? I know, must be blasphemy for some classic fans, but not everything revolves around the classic fan perspective.
  16. Well fortunately the comic book companies doesn't...

    Well fortunately the comic book companies doesn't listen to ideas like this. If people want to prefer existing characters or original characters, there's nothing wrong with that. But if you can't...
  17. I'd say even a little before. For example Earth 2...

    I'd say even a little before. For example Earth 2 was doing just fine in terms of sales under Taylor and Jackson(???), but once World's End came into place, the book quickly started to crash in...
  18. Eh not really, a classic fan common dynamic is...

    Eh not really, a classic fan common dynamic is nostalgia, and the desire to see characters and the world mostly based around a certain era. There's often a strong desire for continuity and can often...
  19. You mean like how Rebirth has ultimately fail in...

    You mean like how Rebirth has ultimately fail in trying to drum up business by reverting back to a "standard" approach? I like how people like to call out New 52 when Rebirth sales has crash faster...
  20. Oh definitely, because the source of the original...

    Oh definitely, because the source of the original mantle remains intact. A classic fan who likes bruce may not like tim drake, or dick grayson, or damian, but like others listed. Just like a classic...
  21. Oh no doubt, but the dispute was never about if...

    Oh no doubt, but the dispute was never about if classic fans had a right to be upset about the upcoming 5g. It was about clarifying that there are already divisions within the comic book demographic,...
  22. I've already discussed this with Detective. ...

    I've already discussed this with Detective.



    Plus just because they are a fan of Jon Kent doesn't mean they aren't a classic fan, as Jon Kent doesn't impede with what Superman can do. Just like...
  23. Seeing as there have been people in the 5g...

    Seeing as there have been people in the 5g threads, and in the superman forums who clearly expressed interested in the concepts of 5g, the evidence is already there. Though if you were fully...
  24. Spoken exactly how I referred. There's plenty of...

    Spoken exactly how I referred. There's plenty of people interested in Jon Kent being aged up and replacing his father. You just refuse to accept those people interested in it because they contradict...
  25. Disagree, people have asking for something along...

    Disagree, people have asking for something along the lines of ANAD for DC for a while, it's that classic fans refuse to listen or ignore these demands due to the fact that they were getting what they...
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