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Or the classic Spiderman and Venom thing, like Goku and Vegeta. Nde.

He never was. Someone doesn't understand the appeal of Spidey it seems.

Yeah just make it like a shonen manga series with a heavy focus on friendships and understanding bonds while carrying the same spidey beats.

Doomsday needs to fight kon.

Hmm it works to me if Spidey just had a set up where his development comes from friendships rather than having a girlfriend or wife.

elaborate more?

I also noticed batman has no trouble being a platform for other characters in the dcu to team up with compared to superman.

I don't want Spidey anywhere near that spoiled entitled Marty stu loser deku. If anything Spidey would fit with Todoroki as a proper team up since unlike deku, him and shoto would relate to each...

And by the core of this topic, I'll just say it. I don't want anymore romance about Peter for a while if not ever. It's always been an auxiliary concept to me that plays second banana to Peter's own...

Everything with Robin, Batgirl, even Harley and Joker? Plus there's Bruce changing constantly in aesthetic or tone even if he's a superhero gimmick, he could be a space or cowboy fantasy.

Isnt that only in movie, in anything else Batman has more flavor than Superman. For example Harley Quinn and somehow the Penguin.

Surely there's got to be some fatigue in that respect, but Batman as a world and the character keeps being used and successful in different types of gimmicks and niches compared to the Superman,...

Because Batmans meant for unlimited veriaty more than Superman, he's a evolving ip as a action thriller and can spread out of his superhero gimmick by his cast of villains and side characters, Supes...

Bump because Spideys now a defined static character.

This still won't surpass Superman: the animated series by a long mile.

I've seen some pretty damn hard-core fights in justice involving Supes against enemies and even infamous ones like Doomsday and Lobo, so I ask you how much should his fights be escalated in terms of...

Spider-Man isn't dick greyson, and cannot be like him because Dick's personality is the enemy of Spider-Man's concept, a total giga chad jock type who acts like a true leader and paragon amongst men...

He's always seems to die casually and underwhelmingly in else worlds and crossover events about the end of the world, the apocalypse or simply a character going on a killing spree killing everyone....

agreed, I feel superman needs a heavy dose of the dc universe and it's world building around his stories and character development to really get me into the guy. Just less batman tho.

I feel Spider-Man is not allowed "truly" grow up because he chooses to act like he's not grown up or stabilized, he still acts like a annoying buffoon and a kid to the rest of the Superhero...

Has anyone ever noticed they like killing Peter off for some unexplained reason in spin off material maybe they(Marvel) truly hate Peter

Peter's accepted no matter what? And there's the problem, he's locked in a permanent position as a logo for the series and can't be truly replaced, as long as his character sales media.

I mean, I get hes the main mascot of marvel comics, but why do they kill him off or beat him up and thus make him look bad in various spin offs where he's easily dispatched and taken out before doing...

Spider-Man aka Peter Benjamin Parker is a eternal product meant to be a inevitable unchanging stock pop culture icon , not a character with a end game story. Accept it.

They do, they want him to be a hero more than a Normal man