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  1. Geoff Johns is going to put a hit out on you for...

    Geoff Johns is going to put a hit out on you for daring impugn the holy name of Hal, the bestest Lantern ever.

    And... yeah, it's an interesting enough sort of matchup. I'm not going to argue with...
  2. Kilowog is at a really solid risk of being...

    Kilowog is at a really solid risk of being drained dry. Vulcan is a stupidly powerful energy manipulator, and sucking the energy from a ring and using it as he sees fit is right up his alley.
  3. As has been stated, it was literally "universe...

    As has been stated, it was literally "universe busting" from punching each other. And that was several explicit upgrades ago for Goku, and those upgrades make him equalish to the high-end types in...
  4. Jess is a bit stronger than that, but it doesn't...

    Jess is a bit stronger than that, but it doesn't change that she's hopelessly outclassed here.
  5. They take hundreds of punches from each other,...

    They take hundreds of punches from each other, and given that they are each so far past PC Kryptonian in strength (again, mod ruled, it's not really an argument), their durability is somewhere up...
  6. That's fair. I'm not saying that Luke could hurt...

    That's fair. I'm not saying that Luke could hurt him, and given those feats, he probably can't. But equally, the Beast just isn't going to be able to hurt Luke. Whole buildings fall on the guy and...
  7. I think that Luke post powerup is out of the...

    I think that Luke post powerup is out of the range of The Beast's ability to damage. I don't recall the inverse, but it's been a long time since I've seen. Luke seems like a better fighter as well.
  8. People otherwise strong enough to be at the...

    People otherwise strong enough to be at the tournament couldn't even APPROACH Jiren, when all he was doing was napping (OK, meditating).

    The issue there is that I don't THINK that Dr. Fate was...
  9. Those hits took place in a tiny fraction of a...

    Those hits took place in a tiny fraction of a second. Don't forget how freaking fast Fox Quicksilver is.
  10. Quicky was still faster than Poccy - he just got...

    Quicky was still faster than Poccy - he just got careless because he didn't think Poccy was going to be able to react. But Poccy still reacted to Quicksilver mid-blitz, and Fox Quicksilver is a...
  11. As far as Matt being charming, it's been a point...

    As far as Matt being charming, it's been a point brought up repeatedly over the years that he is, though I don't recall any specific issues. Most women he winds up with are regarded as spectacular. ...
  12. Future Saga Vegeta and mainline Vegeta are not...

    Future Saga Vegeta and mainline Vegeta are not the same characters at all. That Vegeta died against the Androids, after never really evolving prior to that.

    Mainline Vegeta became a decent and...
  13. Oh I get that, and I am most definitely not...

    Oh I get that, and I am most definitely not arguing, just putting a point out there. ��
  14. Mirror dimension would also do it. But again,...

    Mirror dimension would also do it. But again, she has no chance to act here.
  15. PC Kryptonian level punches would do literally...

    PC Kryptonian level punches would do literally nothing at all to end-of-super Goku and Vegeta and Jiren. They are wildly beyond that level, by mod ruling to boot.
  16. Yup, Poccy reacted to Quicksilver, and doesn't...

    Yup, Poccy reacted to Quicksilver, and doesn't have so many feats that it shouldn't count, so he's waaaaaaay too fast for
  17. Vegeta experienced more character growth, as...

    Vegeta experienced more character growth, as difficult or as partial as it has been, than anybody else in the series. Goku has always been Goku. Vegeta went from space Stalin to a mildly...
  18. That's certainly something that was said, but...

    That's certainly something that was said, but Veggie also spent an awful lot of time extolling the unbeatability of a Saiyan Elite versus a low class warrior. This sounds more like Vegeta ex post...
  19. OK, for part one, the team with all the...

    OK, for part one, the team with all the superpowers ought to win, for multiple reasons:

    1. The sense advantage already is big. Spider Sense is helpful and DD's senses are going to be good for a...
  20. Goku by far. Flash can eat, and is obviously...

    Goku by far. Flash can eat, and is obviously faster, but Goku can eat Flash and still come back for more.
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    I'm sorry that I was bad or petulant there. To...

    I'm sorry that I was bad or petulant there.

    To the thread, this, again, isn't a proveable thing. If Arby wants the vulnerabiltiy to be there, it's there. I've repeatedly stipped the fact that,...
  22. What Pen said, this wasn't PR MM, but it was...

    What Pen said, this wasn't PR MM, but it was still a super powerful reality, matter and energy manipulator.
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    Oh yeah, damn, my stupidity. :-) Sorry. Coffee...

    Oh yeah, damn, my stupidity. :-) Sorry. Coffee had not set in.
  24. Nah, PC Supes can't shrug off Bob's best attacks...

    Nah, PC Supes can't shrug off Bob's best attacks at all; Bob out-moleculed the Molecule Man. But Bob is moving in time-stopped absolute zero frozen concrete compared to PC Supes. He'll launch...
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    I explain my position on this in the post above....

    I explain my position on this in the post above.

    In any case, Arby, this is your thread, and as I've pointed out repeatedly here, there are no board rules on this situation. If your opinion is...
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