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  1. I want the part where Gaetz goes to jail. All the...

    I want the part where Gaetz goes to jail. All the rest are hors d'oeurves
  2. I don't think it's necessary but got no strong...

    I don't think it's necessary but got no strong opinion for or against.



    Capitol Police being treated like the Secret Service in terms of funding and prestige isn't a bad idea. Obviously the...
  3. It's a bit like the Condiment King trying to make...

    It's a bit like the Condiment King trying to make itself Batman's arch-nemesis.

    AOC is so far above Greene's level, it's not funny. She's one of the top-5 fundraisers in the House of...
  4. The CDC is trying to carrot-and-stick I think....

    The CDC is trying to carrot-and-stick I think. Fully vaccinated can go Pre-Pandemic while unvaccinated need to get the shots to join the cool kids.

    The problem is that the unvaccinated can blend...
  5. The word neurodivergent is useful because it...

    The word neurodivergent is useful because it allows a new non-stigmatized word about mental health.

    Superhero Comics have generally been damaging in discussing mental health issues, with the way...
  6. Thank you for sharing this with us. I think...

    Thank you for sharing this with us.

    I think Tobey's Peter might qualify on the spectrum mostly for how overly passive he is compared to 616 Peter, and his morose tendencies. He struck me as...
  7. Certainly. That's a great issue and mostly...

    Certainly.



    That's a great issue and mostly still the origin. But later writers have built on that, they established (in ASTONISHING TALES #8, by Gerry Conway) that his mother Cynthia von Doom...
  8. You trotted out a conspiracy theory. Show...

    You trotted out a conspiracy theory.



    Show me your evidence for these grounds to speculate.



    You did. You said "Defund the Police" was created by an agent provocateur or so on. That is a...
  9. Okay, not a bad definition. Doom still qualifies....

    Okay, not a bad definition. Doom still qualifies. As do the Batman villains you mention I will add.



    If we go by Batman the Animated Series, Dent's problem was that he had mental illness...
  10. You didn't give technical opinions and reasons as...

    You didn't give technical opinions and reasons as to why a character doesn't qualify, you supplied your personal judgment on the character:



    I didn't mention the Batman villains as sock puppets...
  11. I did not. I never said anything against Mr....

    I did not.

    I never said anything against Mr. Freeze or Two-Face, both of whom are indeed tragic villains.

    What I said specifically was,



    When I said "tragedy isn't simply about who has...
  12. That post is awesome and really interesting. I...

    That post is awesome and really interesting. I don't know much about neurodivergence myself but would love to learn more about this.
  13. Unless you have evidence for the latter, there's...

    Unless you have evidence for the latter, there's no point spreading conspiracy theories from the left. If you have reason to suggest why that might be the case, please present evidence otherwise I...
  14. Perhaps. As were Jews. Or you had Jewish...

    Perhaps.



    As were Jews. Or you had Jewish actors (like Kirk Douglas and Lauren Bacall) who changed their names and played WASPs. Which also extended to Hispanic actress like Rita Hayworth.

    ...
  15. By this logic, no supervillain qualifies. The...

    By this logic, no supervillain qualifies. The title of the OP is "most tragic supervillains" but if you are going to use serial-continuity rules to exclude Doom you have to exclude every single...
  16. True. Doom and Reed is that on a literary...

    True.

    Doom and Reed is that on a literary level there's a kind of displacement between them. Both of them are fairly similar characters and dark reflections of one another.

    The thing is Doom's...
  17. You know the right's fixation with AOC borders on...

    You know the right's fixation with AOC borders on some demented stalker-crush. I guess they can't stand the reality-check. Marjorie Taylor Greene is a blonde white woman who is a daughter of a...
  18. The mentality of excessive self-belief is common...

    The mentality of excessive self-belief is common to strong individuals, and historically a number of scientists, artists, and others are strong individuals with deep convictions and confidence that...
  19. By the way, some words from Doctor Doom's...

    By the way, some words from Doctor Doom's creator:

    "I had a hand in creating Doctor Doom...Doom is a very tragic figure... I like Doom. Doom has got a lot of class, he's got a lot of cool. But...
  20. I never chastised other posters for not using the...

    I never chastised other posters for not using the literary definition. They were the ones who complained about Doom being tragic, and got in a snit about it because they think Doom doesn't qualify...
  21. Tragedy originated in literature so why is it...

    Tragedy originated in literature so why is it such a bad thing I talked about things in a literary sense, when I mention and discuss fictional characters?



    Did you not just post this? [Emphasis...
  22. Okay that's more or less tragedy as I have used...

    Okay that's more or less tragedy as I have used the term.

    So what exactly do you understand as the everyday meaning of the word tragedy? What makes you assume it's so much different from mine?
  23. Okay what is the everyday idea of tragic then?...

    Okay what is the everyday idea of tragic then? Because that's pretty damn nebulous as it is.
  24. "Long distance information, give me Memphis...

    "Long distance information, give me Memphis Tennessee
    Help me get in touch with my Marie"


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrbPlr4Wskc

    In this case because infrastructure is creating...
  25. Most tragic villains and heroes aren't...

    Most tragic villains and heroes aren't sympathetic or likable figures.
    -- Agamemnon is the tragic figure in the play Agememnon but a dude who sacrifices his daughter to the gods for trade winds is...
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