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  1. I'm not overwhelmingly attached to one side or...

    I'm not overwhelmingly attached to one side or the other. Nolan is implied to be class 100 ish - when he's talking about pushing a much larger meteor than Mark out of kill-earth trajectory, when he...
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    Immortal was still nice and dead as of the end of...

    Immortal was still nice and dead as of the end of episode 6. Given that was our last episode (unless one came out since? I can't check where I am) he is dead.

    And Homelander had the "searching a...
  3. In a rumble, Nolan should win by blitz.

    In a rumble, Nolan should win by blitz.
  4. It doesn't change it too massively if you leave...

    It doesn't change it too massively if you leave the mafuba in. Superspeed guys with attacks that can contain skyfathers at minimum are extremely dangerous.
  5. Both of those are great selections. Yellow jacket...

    Both of those are great selections. Yellow jacket is dead if they find him, and his issue is sneaking up on Homelander. But yeah, he, especially with some help for distraction, could do some serious...
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    Homelander is MASSIVELY faster than what Immortal...

    Homelander is MASSIVELY faster than what Immortal showed before dying (haha ironic name) however.
  7. The issue is that either a villain solos or they...

    The issue is that either a villain solos or they probably will have a hard time winning.

    Zoom or Reverse Flash or Savitar solo.

    Nazi Supergirl solos.

    Red Tornado solos.

    Graviton solos....
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    What Twik said : Falcon with his suit deals just...

    What Twik said : Falcon with his suit deals just fine with supersoldiers and blocks gunfire multiple times an episode. He'll take this, especially as he also carries pistols, automatic weapons and...
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    Red Rush can probably solo. He hits hard enough...

    Red Rush can probably solo. He hits hard enough to injure Nolan (yes, he hurt himself, but nobody on the Seven is close to as durable as Nolan is).

    If he can't solo, Homelander probably maybe...
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    I'm OK with that. What I'm saying, and what I...

    I'm OK with that.

    What I'm saying, and what I tried to clarify in the follow-up is that, to me, based on the feats at bar, Bucky and Legolas are in the same speed tier. Yes, Legolas has his blink...
  11. Eh, Battle Beast didn't really show a ton of...

    Eh, Battle Beast didn't really show a ton of speed, and Mark forgets his speed all the time. I also don't think that Mark has shown class 80 there. Mark fluctuates a lot between his "kid Gohan...
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    To add one more tiny point - in written fiction,...

    To add one more tiny point - in written fiction, we see really frequently people act doing extremely complex things so quickly that people around don't see it happen. And that's when they are just...
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    We are having a misunderstanding - I am not, in...

    We are having a misunderstanding - I am not, in any way, claiming that Bucky should get DC Batman's feats exactly. What I am saying is that having the speed to easily and consistently aim-dodge and...
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    Here is the one thing we may wind up in "agree to...

    Here is the one thing we may wind up in "agree to disagree" territory - as it doesn't really affect the fight. Things like that are explicitly things that people who trivially aim-dodge do, all the...
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    OK, going back and reading the passage from the...

    OK, going back and reading the passage from the council where Elrond describes the fall of Sauron:

    " I beheld the last combat on the slopes of Orodruin, where Gil-galad died, and Elendil fell, and...
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    I'm not doing that intentionally - I'll address...

    I'm not doing that intentionally - I'll address individual points below.



    That, to me, isn't better than blocking automatic weapon fire at close range with an arm. It's not better than...
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    Fair enough assessment - as usual with you. :D ...

    Fair enough assessment - as usual with you. :D

    For Anduril, despite who forged it, it has no real durability feats over "steel" and has a feat for being broken. Yes, that was Sauron, but...
  18. 1) Vs Midnighter (Wildstorm) - it might take a...

    1) Vs Midnighter (Wildstorm) - it might take a while, but Battle Beast seems pretty far past Midnighter's capability to harm, given what he did to Mark. It might take him a while to hit the guy, but...
  19. Yup, "MVP 17" became quite the meme material...

    Yup, "MVP 17" became quite the meme material after the ToP. He's certainly not quite on Goku and Vegeta's level - made very clear in the Moro stuff - but he's a monster with unlimited energy and a...
  20. He could do that without even doing anything. He...

    He could do that without even doing anything. He could sit down and meditate and win the fight against literally everyone there. This isn't an exaggeration - beings much stronger than any in the...
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    I agree that giving one side ranged gear and the...

    I agree that giving one side ranged gear and the other no ranged gear makes the odds much longer (and likely impossible), but Bucky is still faster, much stronger, more skilled then any of the three...
  22. Strongest foe is hard. They would kill the hell...

    Strongest foe is hard. They would kill the hell out of most class 100s. They would... maybe run out of steam around skyfather level? They would lose to Silver Surfer due to speed issues and his...
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    Primary source is books, but it only takes 30...

    Primary source is books, but it only takes 30 seconds

    1) Aragorn vs Daredevil (S1 black costume and batons)

    I'd give the win to DD against book OR movie Aragorn. Aragorn's a good fighter......
  24. What's worse? Making Saitama miss a sale at the...

    What's worse? Making Saitama miss a sale at the supermarket, or owing Luke Cage money?
  25. For me, it's hard to say! He's never been...

    For me, it's hard to say! He's never been remotely hurt by anything. He lets himself get hit sometimes, just to see if it can hurt him, and it never does. Of course, he's got his Saitama-sense...
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