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  1. The only good Lorna scene possible in X-Men 97...

    The only good Lorna scene possible in X-Men 97 without Genosha is one where Havok appears to be making out with Lorna but it turns out it's Morph and he reverts back to his normal self in the middle...
  2. I don't know what I don't know, but the opposite...

    I don't know what I don't know, but the opposite is also true. I know what I know.

    One thing you don't seem to understand: I'm not new to this. Contrary to your statement, I am not some random...
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    I see that as more reason they shouldn't have her...

    I see that as more reason they shouldn't have her on X-Men 97 at this point, given lack of respect for her with Genosha.
  4. It takes five seconds, maybe less, to show Lorna...

    It takes five seconds, maybe less, to show Lorna is a survivor. Doesn’t even require dialogue. They refused to even do that.

    That’s not impossible. That’s a choice. So I stand by all I said...
  5. It only doesn’t seem like a big problem to you...

    It only doesn’t seem like a big problem to you because what you want to see hasn’t been cut off at the knees. Also, I’m fairly sure that you expect what you most want is going to happen, which is why...
  6. I can give a little more leeway for the next...

    I can give a little more leeway for the next showrunner on this. My comparison point would be Barbara from Stranger Things. She ended up being a much bigger fan favorite than expected. While the...
  7. My issue is mainly with DeMayo because as head...

    My issue is mainly with DeMayo because as head writer, he had the most say in what the show does and doesn’t do. But I haven’t let the rest off the hook just yet.

    Maybe the next show runner will...
  8. Nope. Not a bit. We already know the cartoon...

    Nope. Not a bit.

    We already know the cartoon can’t handle Lorna. The people behind it clearly don’t respect her. That means if they use her, that usage will be extremely poor. Poor depictions...
  9. I said this in the X-Men 97 thread so now I'm...

    I said this in the X-Men 97 thread so now I'm gonna say it here.

    Given the disrespect toward Lorna out of Beau DeMayo and the creative team for X-Men 97, I don't want any Lorna in X-Men 97 at all...
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    At this point, I hope the show ends with no more...

    At this point, I hope the show ends with no more Lorna in it at all. After completely erasing her from the Genoshan genocide story, it's guaranteed they wouldn't do a single thing that's actually...
  11. It's good to know now that the covers we saw were...

    It's good to know now that the covers we saw were just the first half, not the whole X-Men history. Knowing that, the decision with Malice makes more sense. We'll have to see what the other half...
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    When discussing the idea of legacy or protege...

    When discussing the idea of legacy or protege characters, a clear distinction needs to be made that characters being "legacy"/protege characters of other characters does not mean they are of the same...
  13. Not a direct reply to jmc, just a statement on...

    Not a direct reply to jmc, just a statement on the topic. For my mind and money’s worth, I can’t see any idea for X-Factor that would make Lorna being on it offsetting the problem of her yet again...
  14. I see a mix of pros and cons with this cover. ...

    I see a mix of pros and cons with this cover.

    The main pro is that we have a depiction of Lorna with the O5. I would normally complain about Havok being close to her (he could’ve been placed on...
  15. I don’t really care what X-Factor is or does as...

    I don’t really care what X-Factor is or does as long as Lorna’s not on it. And to make sure I’m clear, I mean I don’t want her on it, at all.
  16. I don't think most of those people were Lorna...

    I don't think most of those people were Lorna fans. I think most of them were fans of 2020s X-Factor, of other characters on the book, or of the writer, and saying those things was purely them trying...
  17. Yeah, this is one of many cases that ultimately...

    Yeah, this is one of many cases that ultimately led to me being so deeply opposed to Lorna being on any team named X-Factor now, or any "retrospective" stuff meant to emphasize it with her.

    Since...
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    Hi again, I bet you thought you'd seen the last...

    Hi again, I bet you thought you'd seen the last of me, etc.



    While you don't expect adaptations to be exactly the same, you do expect them to adhere to certain basics and essentials, which this...
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    Poll: You missed Polaris in the poll.

    You missed Polaris in the poll.
  20. Easy solution, he says it and a blow-up doll of...

    Easy solution, he says it and a blow-up doll of Lorna flies over to him with a note that says "(Not) sorry, too busy being awesome elsewhere."
  21. Let Havok do it without Lorna there. If they...

    Let Havok do it without Lorna there. If they think the 90s were so great, surely they'd want him there while Lorna does stuff more meaningful for her that isn't X-Factor.
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    “Of all characters” pretty much says it all for me

    “Of all characters” pretty much says it all for me
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    It’s cause her experience (as well as that of...

    It’s cause her experience (as well as that of Emma and other characters) is integral to a proper telling of Genosha, contrary to what some people here claim.
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    Thanks for sharing. So this is “Genosha” but...

    Thanks for sharing.

    So this is “Genosha” but not really. Disappointed that Marvel allowed THIS be the first use of it since the Disney buyout. Hopefully future adaptations have a hell of a lot...
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    By the same logic, it bears repeating: Genosha...

    By the same logic, it bears repeating: Genosha may be important to Magneto's story, but Magneto is not important to Genosha's story. Which I see you do follow by the rest of your post, but then say...
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