The Origin of Vibranium... in Captain Marvel?

**Mr MajestiK** · 07-10-2014, 10:00 AM

And thus the strip mining and daylight robbery of the Black Panther mythos continues unabated. :smh:

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The more I see Marvel writers playing fast and loose with aspect of established Black Panther mythos lore, the more apparent it becomes that Flex-Hectic's call for a Point Man to safeguard said mythos isn't as outlandish as some would seem to believe. :smh:

I seem to remember some posters suggesting T'Challa heading an intergalactic mission to establish the original source of the meteor that brought Vibranium to Wakanda.

It would appear that Kelly Sue DeConnick has taken a leaf out of our book.

And some still argue against the importance of having a solo Black Panther book.

By the time Marvel editorial have finished strip mining T'Challa's world of all that makes it unique, there'll be nothing left to base a solo book on.:smh:

**Maverick** · 07-10-2014, 10:36 AM

The whole handling of virbanium has been horrid. The Savage Lands having its own source of virbraium, the whole Doom tampering thing, Shuri seeking to borrow vibranium from the Savage Lands and now the space origins of vibranium is being explored in a non-related Black Panther book.

Its not like it is (or was) one of the most prominent features of the Black Panther/Wkakandan lore or anything -__-

I don't see why this would be a thing, it completely devalues vibranium. The super "rare" metal can't be all that special, if you can just travel to another location on earth and get some of it, or hop a few planets to pick some up.

**KOSLOX** · 07-10-2014, 10:45 AM

Does J'Son think Earth is his sort of like the Kree did? Maybe he's referring to Earth as "that pissant planet" and that's just a bunch of stolen Vibranium.

I don't know because I'm not reading Capt. Marvel (just Ms. unless htey crossover).

**Maverick** · 07-10-2014, 10:48 AM

Originally Posted by Spear of Bashenga

Does J'Son think Earth is his sort of like the Kree did? Maybe he's referring to Earth as "that pissant planet" and that's just a bunch of stolen Vibranium.

I don't know because I'm not reading Capt. Marvel (just Ms. unless htey crossover).

Hmm..maybe he is referring to Earth.

I'm not reading Capt. Marvel either.

**KOSLOX** · 07-10-2014, 10:53 AM

Originally Posted by Maverick

Hmm..maybe he is referring to Earth.

I'm not reading Capt. Marvel either.

If it was referring to a planet he owned which had mines or something I'd think he wouldn't be so worried about one shipment and arguing over payment. So just reading those pages to me says that it's stolen goods. Knowing what he thinks of Earth based on GotG and Infinity, I think that maybe this isn't quite the insult it's being perceived as. But like I said I've only seen those three pages so maybe I'm totally off.

**Mr MajestiK** · 07-10-2014, 12:40 PM

Originally Posted by Spear of Bashenga

Does J'Son think Earth is his sort of like the Kree did? Maybe he's referring to Earth as "that pissant planet" and that's just a bunch of stolen Vibranium.

I don't know because I'm not reading Capt. Marvel (just Ms. unless htey crossover).

Originally Posted by Maverick

Hmm..maybe he is referring to Earth.

I'm not reading Capt. Marvel either.

J'Son is referring to an Alien planet Captain Marvel is trying to protect.

Y'all know Carol Danvers current adventures aren't taking place on Earth, right?

**Vic Vega** · 07-10-2014, 11:12 AM

Originally Posted by Spear of Bashenga

Does J'Son think Earth is his sort of like the Kree did? Maybe he's referring to Earth as "that pissant planet" and that's just a bunch of stolen Vibranium.

I don't know because I'm not reading Capt. Marvel (just Ms. unless htey crossover).

Its canon that Vibrainum comes from space originally.

J'son is NOT referring to Earth.

There are a bunch of Space refugees on the planet that Ms. Marvel is on.

It seems like there is Vibrinium on that planet and J'son is determined to dig it out even if the side effects of mining it kill all the space refugees (who are just hapless bystanders in all of this) there.

Wakandans can mine Vibrinium without side effects because they know what they are doing. These guys don't (and its not like J'son would give a #$%% about any of the space refugees either in any event).

**KOSLOX** · 07-10-2014, 11:17 AM

Originally Posted by Vic Vega

Its canon that Vibrainum comes from space originally.

J'son is NOT referring to Earth.

There are a bunch of Space refugees on the planet that Ms. Marvel is on.

It seems like there is Vibrinium on that planet and J'son is determined to dig it out even if the side effects of mining it kill all the space refugees (who are just hapless bystanders in all of this) there.

Wakandans can mine Vibrinium without side effects because they know what they are doing. These guys don't (and its not like J'son would give a #$%% about any of the space refugees either in any event).

Oh, then yeah, this is dumb.

I suppose they could later add on some additional super-awesome-wow properties to Wakandan vibranium but it's a shame that now need to gild the lily in order to keep it special.

**Vic Vega** · 07-10-2014, 11:21 AM

Originally Posted by Spear of Bashenga

Oh, then yeah, this is dumb.

I suppose they could later add on some additional super-awesome-wow properties to Wakandan vibranium but it's a shame that now need to gild the lily in order to keep it special.

It was always from space though.

Both types-the Wakandan and the Savage Land variety.

It had to come from SOMEWHERE.

It's still special otherwise J'son wouldn't want it.

**UltimateTy** · 07-10-2014, 10:47 AM

Yeah it is pretty terrible that vibraniums origin is being handled in a non bp book. I always assumed a future black panther writer would handle that.

**XPac** · 07-10-2014, 12:01 PM

Originally Posted by Maverick

The whole handling of virbanium has been horrid. The Savage Lands having its own source of virbraium, the whole Doom tampering thing, Shuri seeking to borrow vibranium from the Savage Lands and now the space origins of vibranium is being explored in a non-related Black Panther book.

Its not like it is (or was) one of the most prominent features of the Black Panther/Wkakandan lore or anything -__-

I don't see why this would be a thing, it completely devalues vibranium. The super "rare" metal can't be all that special, if you can just travel to another location on earth and get some of it, or hop a few planets to pick some up.

This honestly makes perfect sense to me. Vibranium is from outer space. One small nation on earth shouldn't be the only people in the universe using it. I'm frankly surprised it took this long for a space story to use it.

**UltimateTy** · 07-10-2014, 01:17 PM

Originally Posted by XPac

This honestly makes perfect sense to me. Vibranium is from outer space. One small nation on earth shouldn't be the only people in the universe using it. I'm frankly surprised it took this long for a space story to use it.

Like Maj said something this unique to a characters mythos shouldn't happen in a book not connected to the character. The origin planet of Vibranium should be brought up first in a Black Panther book or a book he's in.

**FriendRoss** · 07-10-2014, 01:37 PM

i bought the issue but have not read it yet... have been following the series

skimmed over the posted images... will read the full story and report back

the planet the refuges where on was making them sick... ill look into this further tonight... but yeah, dont like capt marvel unraveling the mystery of where vibranium came from... but im not going to jump to conclusions yet

**Mr MajestiK** · 07-10-2014, 01:44 PM

Originally Posted by FriendRoss

i bought the issue but have not read it yet... have been following the series

skimmed over the posted images... will read the full story and report back

the planet the refuges where on was making them sick... ill look into this further tonight... but yeah, dont like capt marvel unraveling the mystery of where vibranium came from... but im not going to jump to conclusions yet

I read the book earlier today (UK time) and will say that I was very unhappy with where Ms Deconnick has gone as far as the Vibranium issue is concerned.

It's like marvel editorial won't rest until they've completely rendered the BP mythos completely irrelevant.

First you had Maberry rubbishing Wakanda for supposed "Vibranium dependency" and now we have the latest shenanigans in Captain Marvel #5.

At what point do people begin to realize that the BP mythos can only bleed out so much before dying?

**Anthony Shaw** · 07-10-2014, 01:46 PM

I can see if that story featured BP as a guest star, but no even that.

You don't tackle a mutant issue in a non-mutant comic without some X-Man (we all know one in particular) guest starring.

Where are the writers of the Busiek, Waid, Englehart, and Stern variety who followed the etiquette such things?

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