The Origin of Vibranium... in Captain Marvel?

[Mr MajestiK]

That would actually change the story. This doesn't because vibranium was always from outer space. It was never originally from Wakanda and there's theoretically no reason other people can't own or use it.

It's a shared universe. You are just going to have to get used to that.

And you're going to have to get used to the fact that the shared universe concept becomes a cynically applied conceit when it's permanently set to selective one way traffic mode.

Not one single person in this thread has argued that the variety of Vibranium that's been part of the Wakanda mythos from day one originated anywhere else but from outer Space.

What's been clearly enunciated by more than a few posters is the fact that the discovery of said Wakandan Vibraniums original source should have been tied to a Black Panther-centric book or storyline.

No one currently posting in this thread was responsible for the last Black Panther solo being cancelled just as David Liss was incorporating Shuri and Wakanda into the ongoing narrative but there's no doubting the fact that said cancellation provided the necessary vaccuum to facilitate the nonsense that occured in AvX




and I say this because there was zero evidence of T'Challa and Ororo havinf to seek the guidance of a marriage counsellor during David Liss's Black Panther run.



Choosing to be willingly obtuse to the fact that core elements of the Black Panther Mythos and associated lore are being systematically strip mined to lend weight to other characters and books, and then falling back on the straw man argument that all's fair in the absence of Black Panther scribes having not explored this avenue previously totally misses the overarching point but as you eloquently stated previously.....this is the internet.

[XPac]

And Tony leaked repulsors to everyone in Fractions run. Shared universe. So Panther is free to improve on it to the point Iron Man loses relevance.

According to Brevoort that shouldn't matter even though repulsors tech is inherently linked to Iron Man.

Realistically BP can improve anything he wants and Stark won't lose relavence. Starks relavence isn't defined by that.

[Vic Vega]

And Tony leaked repulsors to everyone in Fractions run, it was kind the point of the first few arcs. Shared universe. So Panther is free to improve on it to the point Iron Man loses relevance.

According to Brevoort that shouldn't matter even though repulsors tech is inherently linked to Iron Man.

Shuri was running around in Iron Man armor for half of Mayberry's run.

It didn't destroy Iron Man.

You guys are imposing a arbitratrarly limit on this thing.

Its like saying every story about Adamantium HAS to involve Wolverine which would be news to the dudes who wrote stories including Ultron.

[Mr MajestiK]

And Tony leaked repulsors to everyone in Fractions run, it was kind the point of the first few arcs. Shared universe. So Panther is free to improve on it to the point Iron Man loses relevance.

According to Brevoort that shouldn't matter even though repulsors tech is inherently linked to Iron Man.

Beautifully logical response.

[MrHashasheen]

https://twitter.com/mrhashasheen/sta...55860836245506

Talking with Sue Kelly on Twitter now.

[KOSLOX]

Its like saying every story about Adamantium HAS to involve Wolverine which would be news to the dude who write stories including Ultron.

You mean the adamantium he got in the story that came out 8 years before Wolverine was created?

Edit: My bad it was 5 years.

[XPac]

You mean the adamantium he got in the story that came out 8 years before Wolverine was created?

Edit: My bad it was 5 years.

Doc Oc and Moon Knight briefly used the stuff too. And ultimately it didn't mattercto Ultron or Wolverine. Nor did either character need to show up when it was used.

[Vic Vega]

Jason Aaron has once more named dropped BP.

The glass half full side of me is hoping that this means BP's stock is on the rise.

The glass half empty side of me dreads that this will only lead to further disappointment.




http://www.comicbookresources.com/?p...ticle&id=53986

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You guys talk like you are following a character that doesn't have any appearances in the pike or doesn't appear regularly in a team book and isn't featured in a mini-series.

Did I crash the Captain Britain thread by mistake?

[MrHashasheen]

Doc Oc and Moon Knight briefly used the stuff too. And ultimately it didn't mattercto Ultron or Wolverine. Nor did either character need to show up when it was used.

They used it. They didn't go on an adventure and discover it's source while Wolverine was out in the bahamas telling Professor X and Magneto to fuck off.

[KOSLOX]

Doc Oc and Moon Knight briefly used the stuff too. And ultimately it didn't mattercto Ultron or Wolverine. Nor did either character need to show up when it was used.

This would be a valid point if anything in Wolverine's history or marvel history suggested that Admantium was rare and only one of two known sources was grafted to his bones.

But since that's not the case....

Instead what we have is something that makes a core part of BPs mythology being made less special. No one has suggested a problem with vibranium being in space, just that by making it something that is being mined and shipped off in space makes it seem much more commen ultimately less important. Especially since BP or specifically Wakanda who owe a lot to it's existance have never even mentioned this planet despite the fact that they have a space program and clearly are capable of travelling since... well who doesn't fly out into space in the MU.

Vibranium was something that set Wakanda apart. It's why the daggers Storm gave to Warpath were a big deal, it's why every application of it has been a big deal. You couldn't get it unless you had a connect to Wakanda or could mine anti-metal. But now we know that they are building fleets with it out in space.

Since you guys want to toss wolverine around it would be like finding out that there were a ton of other guys out in space with adamantium skeletons and metal claws. Sure there's more to the character than just that but you're diluting the brand.

[Vic Vega]

Next you will be telling me Batman is defined by the Giant Penny in his Batcave.

[FLEX HECTIC]

Note: Careful how you deal with Sue Kelly you don't want to encourage the TROLLING that happened before the CBR reboot... She is just another writer doing her thing it's up to Marvel editorial to place the same protection on Black Panther it did for Doom in Doomwar and Namor after what he just did!


If she saw an opening and went for it on behalf of her character that's her right as the writer but Marvel should be the one responsible for protecting the Black Panther intellectual property as it does others when it says "NO" to oh so many other retcons!


Tread carefully and wisely...

[KOSLOX]

Next you will be telling me Batman is defined by the Giant Penny in his Batcave.

A more accurate anology would be that Batcomputer inside of the Batcave.

[The_Panther]

Better yet it would be like taking Kyptonite from Superman. What is Superman without it.

[Vic Vega]

A more accurate anology would be that Batcomputer inside of the Batcave.

Batman's not defined by THAT either.

During the No Man Land series dude just had a bunker with nothing in it but a Pickup Truck.