Ideal Marvel Comics line-up

[mugiwara]

I didn't see one of those threads recently, so let's do one.
What would be your ideal Marvel line-up (titles, characters, creative team)?

Don't choose what you think would boost the sales, choose what would make YOU say "shut up and take my money"

(damn, I tried to limit myself to 26 titles and as a result, I put too many team books because I wanted to stuff as many characters as possible)

1) Avengers (main Avengers book)
Christopher Priest, Valerio Schitti
Sunspot, Cannonball, Songbird, Dr Positron, Spider-Man (Peter), Phyla-Vell, Moondragon

2) Uncanny X-Men (main X book)
Al Ewing, Stefano Caselli
Moonstar, Magma, Warlock, Warpath, Chamber, Hellion, Surge

3) Academy X (like Avengers Academy or WATXM)
Christos Gage, Victor Ibaez
Teachers : Karma, Danger, Nightcrawler, Magneto, Black Knight (because WTF not)
Students : Rockslide, Anole, Mercury, Dust, Shark Girl…

4) Ultimates
Adam Warren, Paul Pelletier
Blue Marvel, Spectrum, Ms America, Beta Ray Bill, Dr Voodoo, Galacta

5) Heroes for Hire
Nick Spencer, Annie Wu
Speed, Real Hawkeye, Prodigy, Renascence, Hope Summers, Striker

6) God Squad
Mike Carrey, Emma Rios
Hercules, Loki, Sun Wukong, Hummingbird, Anansi, Angela, Shuri

7) Guardians of the Galaxy
Kurt Busiek, Alan Davis
Mantis, Rocket, Groot, Gosamyr, Darkhawk, Noh Varr

8) Web of Spider-Man (like Birds or Prey, rotative cast with Spider-Man related characters)
Robbie Thompson, Leonardo Romero
"oracle" : Madame Webb
support : Cardiac, Prowler, Puma
first team : Cloak & Dagger, Silk, Steel Spider, Enigma (Tara Virango)

9) Thunderbolts (between Suicide Squad and Camp Hammond)
David Walker, Kev Walker
staff : Gauntlet, Trauma, Komodo, Diamondback, Annie Ghazikanian
trainees : Melter, Scavenger, Anna Kravinoff, Black Knight, Karasu Tengu, Carter Ghazikanian

10) Sinister Six
Dan Slott, Giusepe Camuncoli
Superior Octopus, Moonstone, Daken, Black Ant, Taskmaster, Southpaw

11) Exiles
Gerry Duggan, Dustin Weaver
Blink (classic Blink from AoA), Spider-Man 138 (Spider Punk Hobbie Brown), Thor 1610 (Ultimate), Captain Britain 61112 (Age of Ultron Faiza Hussain), Captain America 15061 (20XX Danielle Cage), Nova 94241 (SW : Infinity Gauntlet Fayne Bakian)

12) Iron Women
Brian Clevinger, Amy Reeder
Iron Heart (Riri Williams), Iron Patriot (Toni Ho), Rescue (Pepper Potts), War Machine (Lila Rhodes)

13) Marvel Legacy (short stories taking place in the past, present and future)
Al Ewing, Javier Rodriguez
different incarnations of Guillotine, White Tiger, Black Panther, Iron Fist, Sorcerer Supreme, Ghost Rider…

14) Marvel Team Up (different set of characters and creative team for each story)

15) Araña (Anya Corazon with her own code name, powers, costume and rogues)
Fiona Avery, Jorge Molina

16) Blue Marvel (Golden Age, Doc Brasher, Present)
Christopher Priest, Dale Eaglesham

17) Galan (crazy science adventures in the 6th Universe)
Grant Morrison, Jose Ladrönn

18) Ghost Rider (Robbie)
Felipe Smith, Tradd Moore

19) M (Monet St. Croix, who else?)
Gail Simone, Ryan Sook

20) Magik
Saladin Ahmed, Ilias Kyriazis
support : Sapna, Pixie

21) Nova (Rich)
James Robinson, Olivier Coipel

22) Sleepwalker
Simon Spurrier, Travis Foreman

23) Wolverine (Laura)
Kathryn & Stuart Immonen

24) Daughters of Dragon
Justin Gray, Jimmy Palmiotti, Khari Evans
Colleen & Misty of course

25) Agents of SHIELD (Max title)
Greg Rucka, Gabriel Walta
Bishop, Druid, Quake, Red Widow, Stonewall

26) Mys-tech Defenders (Max title)
Brandon Seifert, Lukas Ketner
Dark Angel, Dr Nemesis, Elsa Bloodstone, Forge, Kaluu

[Tofali]

Ultimates
God Squad
Sinister Six
Galan

I would be curious and excited the most for the above books because of the creators and characters on your list



Avenger
Hickman-esque New Avengers
Avengers A.I.

Spider-Books
Ultimate Spider-Man - Bendis
Superior Spider-Man - Dan Slott

Cosmic
Guardians of the Galaxy
Silver Surfer

Fantasy
Thor
Loki

Inhumans
Main book - either Uncanny or Royal Inhumans
Ms Marvel

[Doctor-Comics]

I posted my list in another thread.

I don't have talent listed because, well, that's just crazy talk.

Avengers: probably mostly a classic team

Other Avengers: title TBD, but a place for maybe lesser-known Avengers assembled as a task force for specific missions

Champions: similar to the book published now, younger heroes, optimistic

New Warriors: grittier, damaged young heroes, mentored by a vet and bankrolled in secret by the Avengers

Fantastic Four: bring them back, Marvel

Uncanny X-Men: grown up mutants doing grown up things

X-Factor: there needs to be another "X" book, this can be the mutants with guns

New Mutants: younger mutants going to Xavier's school

Defenders: synergy, synergy, synergy

Cloak and Dagger: see above

Thunderbolts: reformed/reforming villains concept, again. A series about successful, and unsuccessful, redemption

Alpha Flight: Canada's Avengers, more down to earth and accessible

Iron Man: Tony, with Rhodey and RiRi in the supporting cast

Thor: the original Asgardian continues to explore what it means to be "worthy" while he mourns Jane

Hulk: Banner returns, and he's on the run from his past and his future

Amazing Spider-Man: Pete's an adult, marriage optional

Mile Morales, Spider-Man: welcome to the real universe, Miles

Doctor Strange: the Earth's Sorcerer Supreme protects the world from mystical attack

Daredevil: justice is blind!

Moon Knight: Marvel's street level Batman analog fights criminality and his inner demons

Deadpool: synergy, synergy, synergy

Venom: the symbiote changes hosts every few months, sometimes as a hero, sometimes not

Ms. Marvel: we love Ms. Khan

Falcon: Sam flies high

Captain America: Steve feels the weight of the damage done in his name, tries to emulate America's better angels

Black Panther: the King maneuvers a changing continent, and its place in a changing world

Wolverine: Laura and Logan--can one help the other retain their humanity?

Spectacular Spider-Man: Young Adult entry-level series

Tales to Astonish: anthology book, a place to try new things

Marvel Two-in-One: hot character teams with lower tier / new character

[mugiwara]

Marvel Two-in-One: hot character teams with lower tier / new character

The original series was with the Thing, while Team-up was with Spider-Man, right?
I hope they'll do something like that in the new Two-in-one series, but I'm afraid it will be "hot character teams with hot character".

[Techno_Knight]

I'd break them down to "imprints", so that if crossovers were to happen, they'd happen inside those few books. That way it's easier for people to navigate the Universe, since each "imprint" would be "Epsionage" or "Super-Hero", etc, etc. Anyway, let's get to it:


Avengers:

1) Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes
2) Captain America
3) Hawkeye
4) Ant-Man & The Wasp
5) Captain Marvel

Spider-Verse:

1) The Amazing Spider-Man
2) Miles Morales: Spider-Man
3) Venom
4) Spider-Woman
5) Sinister Six

X-Men:

1) The Uncanny X-Men
2) The New X-Men
3) Cable & X-Force
4) The Immortal Wolverine
5) The Despicable Deadpool

Street-Level:

1) Daredevil
2) Heroes For Hire
3) Punisher
4) Nighthawk
5) Young Avengers

Espionage:

1) Black Widow
2) SHIELD
3) Thunderbolts
4) The Invincible Iron Man
5) The Indestructible Hulk

International:

1) Doctor Doom
2) Black Panther
3) Silver Sable & The Wild Pack
4) Excalibur
5) Alpha Flight

Horror/Supernatural:

1) Doctor Strange
2) Ghost Riders
3) Blade
4) Moon Knight
5) Midnight Watch

Fantasy:

1) The Mighty Thor
2) The Incredible Hercules
3) Loki: God of ...
4) Journey Into Mystery
5) Black Knight

Sci-Fi:

1) Fantastic 4
2) Silver Surfer
3) Death's Head: Agent Of SWORD
4) Ultimates
5) Guardians Of The Galaxy

[mugiwara]

Why the hell are "Puma" and "Diamondback" generating a link to some adds?

[Doctor-Comics]

I'd break them down to "imprints", so that if crossovers were to happen, they'd happen inside those few books. That way it's easier for people to navigate the Universe, since each "imprint" would be "Epsionage" or "Super-Hero", etc, etc. Anyway, let's get to it:

They did that, sort of, with Marvel Knights, right?

I could see that working well, especially if crossovers (because they WILL happen) only occur across those imprints.

[rui no onna]

Avengers:

1) Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes
2) Captain America
3) The Indestructible Hulk
4) Ant-Man & The Wasp
5) Captain Marvel

Espionage:

1) Black Widow
2) SHIELD
3) Thunderbolts
4) The Invincible Iron Man
5) Hawkeye

Swap Hulk for Hawkeye and I'd pull almost the entire Espionage line bar Iron Man. Neither Tony nor Riri interests me.

[DDM]

Uncanny X-Men
New Mutants
X-Factor
Excalibur
Wolverine

...

Deadpool

[Techno_Knight]

They did that, sort of, with Marvel Knights, right?

I could see that working well, especially if crossovers (because they WILL happen) only occur across those imprints.

Yeah, MK worked kinda like that.

Swap Hulk for Hawkeye and I'd pull almost the entire Espionage line bar Iron Man. Neither Tony nor Riri interests me.

>RiRi
>appearing anywhere in my dream line-up
>implying

RiRi is neck and neck with Alpha in my "Top 5 Most Hated Characters". In my "Ideal Line" she'd either be nowhere to be found, or be killed by a falling pot of grass or something.

I'd like to come up with some creative teams and whatnot later.

[Doctor-Comics]

It's dawning on me that Marvel hasn't produced a good, old-fashioned "science accident" superhero in a long time.

After mutations were used as the hand wave for super powers, followed by the Inhumans' mist, there's been a distinct lack of cosmic rays, radioactive explosions, and medical experimentations gone wrong.

[Captain M]

This is my list based on my wishes with a touch of realism. Going to start with the Avengers line.

1) Avengers

- All Avengers boos are loosely connected. They acknowledge each other and the members of the team. And they work on different areas. Sometimes team up.
- Captain America, Wasp, She-Hulk , Scarlet Witch, Iron Man, Thor, Hawkeye, Vision
- Cap and Wasp are co-leaders
- Avengers Tower is the HQ.

2) Mighty Avengers

- Captain Marvel, Ant-Man (Scott), Falcon, Spider-Woman, Wonder Man, Quicksilver, Spectrum
- Carol is the leader.
- Characters from either book sometimes guest star in the other.
- Avengers Mansion is the HQ.

3) Avengers Assemble

- 2 or 3 issue long stories.
- Each story features characters from the other 3 Avengers books.

4) Avengers Academy

- Launched after Hank Pym is back in "Ant-Man and the Wasp".
- Hank Pym is the headmaster. Various Avengers guest star. Tigra, Hercules, Wasp and Quicksilver are recurring.
- Hazmat is a major character. Striker and Finesse are also back. Cullen Bloodstone and Anachronism are also in the book to some extent.
- New group of students.
- One of the arcs has Deathlocket and as a villain.

5) Ant-Man and the Wasp

- Stars Janet and Scott.
- Cassie, Nadia are recurring. Black Ant also guest stars.
- First arc brings Hank Pym back. He then is a recurring character.

6) Hawkeye

- Stars Clint and Kate and their shenanigans.

7) Iron Man

- Tony is the main character. Riri however is featured in the book.

9) Mighty Thor

- Jane Foster

10) Thor

- Odinson

9) Captain America


The Avengers line builds up to a big crossover that is hinted and teased for almost 3 years. It's a big event, but it's focused on the Avengers. X-Men and other heroes don't have major parts, their books don't tie-in.

[donpricetag]

Starting from a pseudo "year-one". Basically how I would have reset following Secret Wars;

1. X-Men: Cyclops, Rogue, Psylocke, Gambit, Frenzy, Wolverine, Archangel
2. Uncanny X-Men: Storm, Iceman, Jean Grey, Bishop, Nightcrawler, Colossus, Kitty Pryde
3. X-Force: Cable, Cannonball, Rachel Grey, Domino, Warpath, M, Sunspot
4. New Mutants: Beast, Emma Frost, Professor X; Hellion, Rockslide, Armor, Mercury, Surge, Pixie, Elixir, Dust, Gentle, Genesis, 3 in 1
5. X-Men Unlimited (anthology series): Rotating X-Men mini-series
6. Magneto and the Brotherhood: Magneto, Polaris, Havok, Mystique, Sabretooth, Fantomex, Oya, Quinton Quire
7. Cable
8. Wolverine
9. Deadpool
10. Amazing Spider-Man
11. Spider-Man (Miles Morales)
12. Venom
13. Silk
14. Avengers: Cap America, Iron Man, Thor, Quicksilver, Scarlet Witch, Cap Marvel, Blk Panther, Vision
15. Secret Avengers: Blk Widow, Hawkeye, Mockingbird, Falcon, Wasp, Antman, Spider-Woman
16. Captain America
17. Iron Man
18. Thor
19. The Incredible Hulk
20. Black Panther
21. Captain Marvel
22. The Ultimates: Wonderman, Spectrum, Blue Marvel, Hyperion, Manifold
23. Defenders: Daredevil, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, Jessica Jones, Misty Knight
24. Daredevil: The Man without Fear
25. Luke Cage
26. The Immortal Iron Fist
27. Doctor Strange
28. Thanos
29. Guardians of the Galaxy
30. America Chavez
31. Champions: Ms. Marvel, Nova, X-23, Spider-Man (Miles), Iron Heart
32. Ms. Marvel and her Amazing Friends
33. The Inhumans: Black Bolt, Medusa, Crystal, Luna, Gorgon, Triton, Karnak; Nuhumans
34. Black Bolt
35. Midnight Sons (anthology series): Blade, Ghost Rider, Mobius, Moonknight
36. The Punisher
37. Fantastic Four: Mr. Fantastic, Invisible Woman, Human Torch, Thing, Franklin, Valeria
38. (Dr.) Doom

I'd cap it at 50, keeping the remaining 12 spots open for characters that breakout of whatever they are doing now. Such as, if Blade or Blk Widow gain followings, there's room to give them a solo ongoing. Or if there are creators with viable book ideas editorial wants to explore.

[cc008]

What don said.

[Dreaded Porcupine]

There are quite a few great ideas posted so far. Here is what I would love to see

Avengers- classic and maybe another west coast like team
Thunderbolts- redemption, the idea that some villains redeem and some don't
Alpha Flight- it's been a long time
Spider-Woman- with Gerry, Roger and Ben as supporting cast
Ant-Man and Wasp- Scott and Janet. Cassie, Hank, Raz and Grizzly as supporting characters
X-Men Blue- I actually like the young old X-Men
Villain team book- plenty of villain teams to choose from