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    If they tied a Wolverine and Jean Grey resurrection together and marketed it as such, the $$$ potential is pretty high.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Disciple of Redd View Post
    If they tied a Wolverine and Jean Grey resurrection together and marketed it as such, the $$$ potential is pretty high.
    No doubt. Just relaunch X-men Blue and Gold as Uncanny X-men and X-men, with casts reminiscent (but not exactly like) those of the 90s Blue/Gold teams, and it would be $$$.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackraow21 View Post
    No doubt. Just relaunch X-men Blue and Gold as Uncanny X-men and X-men, with casts reminiscent (but not exactly like) those of the 90s Blue/Gold teams, and it would be $$$.
    Maybe Jim will even do a cover!
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    Jane Foster the new phoenix?

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    Quote Originally Posted by StephenFoxMonster View Post
    I think making The Phoenix an Avenger in this is just to have X-Men representation for the book. I don't think they are going to make Phoenix an Avenger past that BC book.
    I hope so.

    Related to the rest of this thread if they do bring back original Wolverine I agree that is stupid unnecessary and excessive. Even worse by far would be bringing back Wolverine and original Jean without original Cyclops. Yeah that's just what we need....
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    Quote Originally Posted by AbnormallyNormal View Post
    I hope so.

    Related to the rest of this thread if they do bring back original Wolverine I agree that is stupid unnecessary and excessive. Even worse by far would be bringing back Wolverine and original Jean without original Cyclops. Yeah that's just what we need....
    There would be nothing wrong with bringing back Jean and Logan as long as they move on from OML at the same time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Disciple of Redd View Post
    There would be nothing wrong with bringing back Jean and Logan as long as they move on from OML at the same time.
    If they bring back Jean and Wolvie without Cyclops it's nothing more but trying to officially erase Jott completely
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    Jokes on all of you. It won't be an X-men! or even a mutant, Ha!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AbnormallyNormal View Post
    If they bring back Jean and Wolvie without Cyclops it's nothing more but trying to officially erase Jott completely
    Oh. The humanity.

    Won't someone think of the alternate reality children.

    What's next? Erasing the Xavier/Mystique marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by XchaiX View Post
    Jokes on all of you. It won't be an X-men! or even a mutant, Ha!
    You kid, but it wouldn't be all that unbelievable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CuteClops View Post
    The Phoenix will be an avenger now, so she/he will no longer be a 'villain', just like when she/he was an X-Men. So said the cbr site.

    http://www.cbr.com/marvel-legacy-res...e-jean-grey/3/







    CBR should finally accept that Cyclops was right. But that's never going to happen because they hate him.
    That Cyclops was right and evereryone hates him complex is annoying. You should move on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Purplevit View Post
    That Cyclops was right and evereryone hates him complex is annoying. You should move on.
    Good luck with that. I like Cyclops and have been accused of hating him in the past. You are one brave person to suggest this.

    Beyond that I really hope Jean returns. She has been gone for to long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Disciple of Redd View Post
    Oh. The humanity.

    Won't someone think of the alternate reality children.

    What's next? Erasing the Xavier/Mystique marriage?
    Yes Xavier and Mystique is exactly the same thing as Jott. Wow. What is going on with people
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulfhammer View Post
    Ok. Answer me this. What does the Phoenix look like? Because if the answer is she looks like Jean than you can't sidestep the legalities with a retcon. If she looks like a giant firebird you have the same problem because that's clearly an aspect of a x-character, not some nebulous offspring. If she doesn't look like either than whats the draw for Marvel to promote this? Also given Fox's upcoming movie property do you really think they would let the Phoenix slip through their fingers while there trying to promote their movie with the Pheonix in it? Maybe I'm missing something here.
    I don't think Fox has any leverage in this, whatsoever. They have everything to lose and very little to gain. They're the ones who have to spend the money to advertise X-men: Dark Phoenix. Marvel gets paid a share either way. I think by tying Phoenix to the Avengers and not Jean Grey, Marvel is thinking long-term. They're banking on X-men Dark Phoenix to raise some awareness of the Phoenix, but they don't want that awareness directed at the X-men. They want it directed at the Avengers and other properties that they control completely. That's why them turning the Phoenix Force into an Avengers, somehow, and cutting it off from the X-men makes sense for them. Granted, it will really upset a certain contingent of X-men fans, but Marvel has shown a willingness to upset those fans in the past. I think they've realized there's no winning back those fans. They're focusing on building new fans instead.

    Like I said, I'm about 95 percent sure of this. All the incentives line up. Marvel has everything to gain by making Phoenix an Avenger and cutting all ties with the X-men. When there's that kind of incentive, that's usually a pretty good indication that it will happen.
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    So I saw a post on 4chan about marvel December solicits (tried to find it on any other sites to see if to compare, but don't think it's officially out there), seems Marvel has something big planned for the Phoenix and Jean grey in December. Almost all the marvel comics have a Phoenix variant cover, and there seem to be sales of short Jean grey /Phoenix stories for 1 dollar each.
    Jean grey #10 also comes out that month (looking at sales, marvel might end it there, but if they bring adult Jean back, maybe they could make it her own book).
    PHOENIX RESURRECTION RETURN JEAN GREY #1
    OCT170824
    (W) Matthew Rosenberg (A/CA) Leinil Francis Yu
    VARIANT COVER BY ARTGERM (OCT170825)
    VARIANT COVER BY ARTHUR ADAMS (OCT170826)
    TRADING CARD VARIANT COVER BY JOHN TYLER CHRISTOPHER (OCT170827)
    VARIANT COVER BY FRANCESCO MATTINA (OCT170828)
    YOUNG VARIANT COVER BY SKOTTIE YOUNG (OCT170832)
    B&W Variant also available (OCT170833)
    VARIANT COVERS BY TBA (OCT170829, OCT170830, and OCT170831)
    In Shops: Dec 27, 2017
    SRP: $4.99
    http://archive.is/G7fuE
    The Jean grey and Phoenix stories that would be sold
    TRUE BELIEVERS PHOENIX FEATURING CYCLOPS & MARVEL GIRL
    OCT170980
    In Shops: Dec 06, 2017
    SRP: $1.00
    TRUE BELIEVERS ENTER THE PHOENIX
    OCT170981
    In Shops: Dec 06, 2017
    SRP: $1.00
    TRUE BELIEVERS PHOENIX RETURNS
    OCT170982
    In Shops: Dec 13, 2017
    SRP: $1.00
    TRUE BELIEVERS PHOENIX CLASSIC
    OCT170983
    In Shops: Dec 13, 2017
    SRP: $1.00
    TRUE BELIEVERS PHOENIX BIZARRE ADVENTURES
    OCT170984
    In Shops: Dec 13, 2017
    SRP: $1.00
    TRUE BELIEVERS PHOENIX VS SABRETOOTH
    OCT170985
    In Shops: Dec 20, 2017
    SRP: $1.00
    TRUE BELIEVERS PHOENIX WEDDING
    OCT170986
    In Shops: Dec 20, 2017
    SRP: $1.00
    TRUE BELIEVERS PHOENIX WHAT IF
    OCT170987
    In Shops: Dec 27, 2017
    SRP: $1.00
    TRUE BELIEVERS DEATH OF PHOENIX
    OCT170988
    In Shops: Dec 27, 2017
    SRP: $1.00
    TRUE BELIEVERS PHOENIX ORIGINS
    OCT170989
    In Shops: Dec 27, 2017
    SRP: $1.00
    http://desuarchive.org/co/thread/95300719/#95300719


    As I said, I saw that on 4chan and can't find the solicit list anywhere else, but I did find a solicit on previewsworld

    PHOENIX RESURRECTION RETURN JEAN GREY #1
    MARVEL COMICS
    PHOENIX RESURRECTION RETURN JEAN GREY #1
    OCT170824
    (W) Matthew Rosenberg (A/CA) Leinil Francis Yu
    She will return, like a Phoenix from the ashes.
    Years ago, Jean Grey died and the X-Men mourned her. Since then, the world has changed, her teammates have lived without her and died without her. And now, when strange events start happening all over the world, those teammates can only come to one conclusion - the one true Jean Grey is back!
    Rated T+
    In Shops: Dec 27, 2017
    SRP: $4.99
    https://www.previewsworld.com/Catalog/OCT170824

    Anyways, fingers crossed and grain of salt, all that...
    Last edited by Del torro; 09-13-2017 at 03:25 AM. Reason: I said gingers crossed lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by v_jeovanne View Post
    Jane Foster the new phoenix?
    Oh God, please no

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