Walking Dead : Season #8 "ALL OUT WAR !"

[Chuck]

So is there anyone left who hasn't kicked Rick's butt?

[Sacred Knight]

Not sure how I feel about this now knowing it wasn't Chandler's choice. I was okay with it because I simply assumed it was the young man's wish to move on to new things. Gimple making the decision though puts it in a whole new context. If you have no choice and are doing it to accommodate a young man for college and such experiences, good on you. Deviating on this drastic a measure from the source material without having to do so though...that I question greatly.

[The Cool Thatguy]

I don't think the issue should be 'Is it source material compliant', but rather 'is there a legit story reason', or, at the very least, risky/daring.

The first, we'll see.

The second, I kinda doubt it. Fan faves tend to do better than they should, IMO. This seems like a 'safe' choice

[Madam-Shogun-Assassin]

This was like when Tyreese died, and that was a bad one for a minor character.

Tyreese was nowhere near a minor character when he died. lol

[Madam-Shogun-Assassin]

. This seems like a 'safe' choice

It was; For all his faults Carl shouldn't be dead, hell Andrea & Sophia shouldn't be dead. at least not THAT early. Judith SHOULD be dead.

[Emperor-of-Dragons]

Ok if you could get rid of Gimple , who would ya'll make showrunner? Cause im curious.

[Sacred Knight]

I don't think the issue should be 'Is it source material compliant', but rather 'is there a legit story reason', or, at the very least, risky/daring.

The first, we'll see.

The second, I kinda doubt it. Fan faves tend to do better than they should, IMO. This seems like a 'safe' choice

Oh I agree. This is just a case where the two ideas go hand-in-hand for me. I'm concerned over the extreme deviation of source material because I question if there's a legit story reason for such a change. In general I don't have any issue with not following the comic beat for beat. In fact I've always preferred it veered off in its own direction in places. But this is a huge change on a level I'd argue has not been navigated yet.

[Bl00dwerK]

They're probably gonna kill Carl off becuase he's getting too old and they don't want to re-cast the part. That's my guess.

[Scott Taylor]

Sooner or later, you'd think Enid would be on the chopping block since she seems to have been set up to be Carl's love interest.

My guess is that Judith will take over his roles after the war is over and there has been peace for a bit (after she grows to that age).

[Kirby101]

It was just so dumb. How did they get out? What happened to all the zombies inside? How did they come up with a plan so fast? How did they know the exact spot to catch Maggie on the road if they have all been locked up and had no idea what was going on outside all this time? Where did this huge army of saviors come from after seeing over 100 of them killed off over the last two season? How did all the snipers left at the santuary get taken out? There were just so many plots sinkholes (they are too big to just be called plotholes) that it made watching this episode hard to get through.

It really was just amatuer hour writing on ever level. It was like they came up with the "lets kill Carl" idea and didn't worry about the rest of the episode as long as they got there. It really was "well they have been winning so far this season time to just flip it 180 even if it doesn't make any goddamned sense in how it happens"

Exactly how i feel. Thanks for doing the work of listing SOME of the errors and unanswered questions.

[Joker]

Not sure how I feel about this now knowing it wasn't Chandler's choice.

I don't think it's ever really the actors choice. For whatever that's worth to you.

[The Cool Thatguy]

I don't think it's ever really the actors choice. For whatever that's worth to you.

Well, if they say 'STFU, I'm outta here', then they sorta get a say

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Facebook post from Chandler Riggs' dad:

Fired is an odd term for them to use. Main cast members usually have a contractual agreement with the producers/network. Standard contracts for TV shows used to be a run of 7 seasons but I don't know what they are for TWD cast.

The show I think keeps cast members a year each. Beyond Andrew Lincoln who is considered the main star , the rest are yearly.

They're probably gonna kill Carl off becuase he's getting too old and they don't want to re-cast the part. That's my guess.

That likely played a part. As much as folks here are going "source material" repeatedly and all. The Carl Grimes in the comics is 15/16 right now. Riggs is 18 and another year will be 19. He was aging past the Carl Grimes role.

I don't think it's ever really the actors choice. For whatever that's worth to you.

Pretty true , Emily Kinney was sad to learn she was being let go after the 5th season and had even got an apartment. But she understood that was how the show is and changes made there.

[Zero Hunter]

Can we all agree the they have pretty much ruined Eugene as a character at this point. Even him helping out Gabriel does nothing to redeem how bad they have just turned him into the most hated character on the show and a worthless piece of garbage. I know this is suposed to be setting him up for some redemption latter on but at this point I just want Rosita to pop him in the head without letting him go into one of his speeches. He is ruined beyond repair to me.

[Callahan]

Are we sure Carl is really going to die? Is it possible they are faking us out again, similar to Glenn and the dumpster?

I thought the Zombie bite looked odd. I wouldn't put it past the writers to write a zombie bite that is just teeth marks that break skin vs all the other zombie bites that tear the flesh and innards right from the body.

Is it possible the walkers Carl ran into in the forrest were whisperers? This would explain the less than usual zombie bite.

I also heard some character is immune to the zombie virus in the comics?

I suppose I'm just not entirely convinced until I see it.