Are you unable to watch old films because they don't hold up?

[Spiderfang]

Like the 80's/90's batman movies or the early 2000's x-men/spiderman movies? I find out of all of the old Bat Man movies, I am able to watch the Tim Burton movies and still feel fully immersed. I feel like Burton did such an excellent job with capturing the dark and gritty aesthetic of the Batman atmosphere that you overlook the fact that there's no cell phones and it's "1990/1991". I can't bring myself to watch Batman & Robin however, it maybe on reasons outside of its datedness (over the top campiness, cheesy dialogue, too many characters with not enough focus, etc) but I still absolutely love the Burton Batman movies and the Dick Tracy movie as well.

[brettc1]

Like the 80's/90's batman movies or the early 2000's x-men/spiderman movies? I find out of all of the old Bat Man movies, I am able to watch the Tim Burton movies and still feel fully immersed. I feel like Burton did such an excellent job with capturing the dark and gritty aesthetic of the Batman atmosphere that you overlook the fact that there's no cell phones and it's "1990/1991". I can't bring myself to watch Batman & Robin however, it maybe on reasons outside of its datedness (over the top campiness, cheesy dialogue, too many characters with not enough focus, etc) but I still absolutely love the Burton Batman movies and the Dick Tracy movie as well.

The reason you can't watch Batman and Robin is the same as for everyone else - it is total crap from beginning to end.

The only good thing you can say about it on this thread is that it hasn't become less watchable over time, because it started at rock bottom and there is no way it can get worse.

[AJBopp]

No. Films don't become dated. They become classic or timeless.

People become dated.

[Jackalope89]

No. Films don't become dated. They become classic or timeless.

People become dated.

This. 1989's Batman is a classic. And I actually find it and Batman Returns, easier to watch then the Nolan Trilogy.
Despite the bad CGI, I also quite enjoy The Mummy and The Mummy Returns.

[WhichDrWhowins]

No to be honest I even watch old films from the 50s and even 1930s even old silent cult film, once you get into the genres they all have their charm. I suppose its like paints or drawings or like theater, book and music you learn to see the talent in them all, some foreign stuff from say Germany or China or Japan or France is also great. I sometimes collect old film with commentary etc or box sets of old dvd bluray tv shows. It's much worse for me the new stuff I can't stand crap music, reality tv, the latest bla Transformers, Xfacto idol got talent, bla bla Potters or torture porn like the ugly Saw movies and boring so called 'hyper realism' **** like Breaking Bad and their rapist child molesting Hollyweird celebrities, I get so pissed off and bored with the latest bla bla political talking points tv show from John Oliver or piers morgan or steh myers .. Left or Right they say the same stuff and its like an old rerun. and next thing all the poltical zombies are parroting the crap they heard yesterday. Also the same stupid politics creeping into the tv shows. Everything today is almost a remake, all they do now is sex it up with gore, violence, drugs, and nudity. Watch old school Japan or Franch or Korean film to learn a thing or two about story telling and what the heck happened to the Hollywood original film makers and screen writers!? did they all move to Canada? to Newyork? to Netflix or HBO? to Australia? where did they go? or is this what the audience wants now?

I would honestly put up with John Wayne's 'racism' or sexism or patriarchy or so called white boy privilege or un-cool stiff un-hip nature 100 times before I would ever put up with a creepy weird degenerates like Kevin Spacey on film again. This is coming from someone who normally hates John-never-went-to-war-Wayne cowboy movies and think the Native Americans got a terrible deal in general, I would rather watch 100 crap John Wayne movies than another weirdo frat boy progressive Hollyweird humor movie, the rapstars with convictions beating their girlfriends and caught with illegal firearms, the rock pop stars off their heads on drugs thinking they are also actors, the corruption and the nepotism, honestly I would rather watch and listen to an ******* like John Wayne and his stupid cowboy films.

People today are blasted with meda and they are spoiled today, very few remember the days of when a movie would stay in theater for months not just 2 weeks, very few remember the days of the VHS and they all expect their scifi and comic movies to be perfect. At one time you dared not admit you read comics in public to almost anyone only your best friends, some thinks were seen as acceptable the Terminators or Star Treks or Superman films but even then you were seen as an outcast or freak if you geeked on it too much. Watching and reading this stuff it was like it seen as trash like fast food and was like admitting you liked reading and writing the art on public bathroom walls.

The reason you can't watch Batman and Robin is the same as for everyone else - it is total crap from beginning to end.

agreed this is a crap film with no redeeming qualities, some people find Arnie funny but I think he's cringe

imagine some people may have watched this in the cinema, I wonder what the reactions were

[sunofdarkchild]

Some of the older James Bond films because the sexism in them makes me feel uncomfortable, especially the ones where he makes women fall in love with him by beating them.

I find the Burton Batman movies to have aged because the dialogue I found great when I was 8 is just cringe-worthy now. 'mistletoe can be deadly if you eat it,' really? They were always badly flawed movies, but now I don't care for anything other than the visual design and the score.

A lot of 90s CG-heavy movies.

[Gray Lensman]

No. Films don't become dated. They become classic or timeless.

People become dated.

I wouldn't say that's 100% true - science fiction films that don't become classics are the primary culprits simply because technology advanced faster than they anticipated. If it's supposed to be the future but looks lower tech than today it stands out.

[AJBopp]

agreed this is a crap film with no redeeming qualities, some people find Arnie funny but I think he's cringe

imagine some people may have watched this in the cinema, I wonder what the reactions were

We thought we were watching a comedy like Adam West Batman. On that level, we mostly enjoyed it. Though it was startling because it was not like the previous Batman films with a similar design aesthetic.

[AJBopp]

I wouldn't say that's 100% true - science fiction films that don't become classics are the primary culprits simply because technology advanced faster than they anticipated. If it's supposed to be the future but looks lower tech than today it stands out.

Science fiction films are the primary reason it is 100% true. You take into account the age in which it was made. Like Frankenstein.

[Midvillian1322]

O cant watch alot of old stuff. batman 66, Hulk Tv show etc... Are just awfull to me but if i saw them as a kid it might ne different. I grew up on smallville and still love it now

[Lee Stone]

Not me...
The over-reliance on cgi turns me off to most modern films.

My favorite movies are still Blade Runner, Alien and Star Wars (the original un-tainted version).

[Powerboy]

I sometimes have a greater appreciation of older stuff now than when it was new.

I watched the two Michael Keaton Batman movies a few years ago. I didn't like the first one at all back in 1989 but now I have a real appreciation for Nicholson's Joker and the whole ascetic of Burton's Batman.

I even admire the brilliance of the Adam West Batman more than when I was 18 and was too grown up for that silly kid stuff.

Off the comic book subject but onto the idea of dated social attitudes, I sometimes watch an old show like "Andy Griffith" or "Dick Van Dyke" or any older show you could mention and, rather than condemning people in 1960 for not having 2017 social attitudes, I'm fascinated by what those attitudes were then especially when I see episodes that show how, even then, those social attitudes were progressing forwards.

[Gray Lensman]

Science fiction films are the primary reason it is 100% true. You take into account the age in which it was made. Like Frankenstein.

Frankenstein had a retro look even when the film was new - I'm referring to stuff other than the classics where the future doesn't have computers smaller than a room, and the control panels are full of dials and oversized switches.

The classics like The Day The Earth Stood Still and Star Trek get a pass because of how good and/or important they are. But stuff that people can't remember unless the title is in front of them? Not so much.

Basically, the true classics don't really suffer from dated effects (especially if they were cutting edge for the time), the bad or merely mediocre films get dragged down even further.

[AJBopp]

Frankenstein had a retro look even when the film was new - I'm referring to stuff other than the classics where the future doesn't have computers smaller than a room, and the control panels are full of dials and oversized switches.

The classics like The Day The Earth Stood Still and Star Trek get a pass because of how good and/or important they are. But stuff that people can't remember unless the title is in front of them? Not so much.

Basically, the true classics don't really suffer from dated effects (especially if they were cutting edge for the time), the bad or merely mediocre films get dragged down even further.

That's a sufferer t thing. I'm unable to watch bad films because they are bad, not because they are dated.

[Gray Lensman]

That's a sufferer t thing. I'm unable to watch bad films because they are bad, not because they are dated.

I'm also referring to films which are just average. Greatness overcomes that which would drag down others.