'Avengers: No Surrender' Crossover Starting in January

[Dermie]

Rescue? You mean Toni Ho? She's Iron Patriot now (a smart move from Ewing - that mantle was vacant while Pepper Potts is still active as Rescue).

Actually, she's not Iron Patriot anymore. She stepped back from that role and stopped using the armour a few issues before the end of U.S.AVENGERS. Right now she's just Dr. Toni Ho, scientific adventurer--much like Hank Pym was for most of the WCA era.

[SpiderClops]

Nadia Van Dyne? Wut? When did that happen?
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[Crimz]

So the latest issue seems to reveal

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That Voyager is a retcon, I absolutely hate these types of retcons. I'm still holding out hope that it's not the case.

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[Johnrevenge]

Nadia Van Dyne? Wut? When did that happen?
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In the Unstoppable Wasp series. Nadia decided to use the Van Dyne last name by the end of the series.

[SpiderClops]

So the latest issue seems to reveal

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That Voyager is a retcon, I absolutely hate these types of retcons. I'm still holding out hope that it's not the case.

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How did you think she wouldn't be a retcon? Genuinely asking. I hated how everyone was just lining up to tell us how awesome she is.

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[SpiderClops]

In the Unstoppable Wasp series. Nadia decided to use the Van Dyne last name by the end of the series.

Why did she decide to use her stepmother's last name???

[Captain M]

Can't wait until Voyager is gone. Other than that it was another fun issue.

[Crimz]

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How did you think she wouldn't be a retcon? Genuinely asking. I hated how everyone was just lining up to tell us how awesome she is.

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Just as you said, everyone was kissing her ass like she was the second coming of Jesus. That just made me think that it wouldn't be a retcon and she manipulated time to insert herself into the Avengers and gain their trust. Guess I was wrong and it's the Sentry fiasco all over again.

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[Fokken]

Who is Jesus?

Living Lightning's BF?

Oh wait.
GeeeeZUS. Not HAY-seus.

Nurrrmind.

[Username taken]

I think Voyager is meant to stick out as odd.

I don't think it's a real retcon.

[Fokken]

I think Voyager is meant to stick out as odd.

I don't think it's a real retcon.

Yeah gang. Its gonna come in to play beyond "Oh yay for this person who allegedly existed all along". These writers are brilliant.

[ZuLuLu]

I think Voyager is meant to stick out as odd.

I don't think it's a real retcon.

Agreed. I still think it is part of the larger plot point and not another Sentry situation

Why did she decide to use her stepmother's last name???

Basically, she never knew either of parents and Janet is the closet thing to family she has.

[Dumdumdumdumdum]

Someone on Bleeding Cool just pointed this out about Voyager's spoilers:

enemy from the Squadron Sinister. Victory is Triumph from DC. A Mark Waid creation that is eerily similar to Voyager.

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I still think the retcon is a ruse, and Vector is part of the problem. I trust Al Ewing to give us something awesome.

[Knives]

Today's issue was fun.

I do not know what marvel intends with Voyager but she does not seem to be a bad person and do not know if she is responsible or not for the changes.

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Another thing that was obvious is that the two factions of villains fighting against each other have been chosen (I have a theory of who invoked them but for now prefer to wait for more clues). Probably the Earth was chosen to be the battlefield and the Avengers are the wild cards or pieces that are not of either side to increase the fun and make the game more difficult.Even Voyager may be another piece of the game created by those who control the game.

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[Triniking1234]

Why did she decide to use her stepmother's last name???

In the last issue of Jeremy Whitely's Unstoppable Wasp, Nadia overhears some normies talking about Henry slapping Janet. Nadia asks Janet about it and Whitley pulls a Bendis and throws poor Pym under all the buses. Nadia ends the issue by asking Janet if she can use her last name instead of Pym (when she could've just used her mom's maiden name instead like a normal human).

Why does Nadia even need a legal guardian? Isn't she at least the Runaways' age?