Green Lanterns vs Annihilators

[The Drunkard Kid]

Shielding Gladiator means whoever is doing so is more vulnerable to being taken out, as they can't focus on fighting as much as they otherwise could.

Wendell could totally will the bands onto the Surfer though.

I don't really think it would take all that much effort or will for Surfer to arrange to absorb any radiation of that spectrum in the general vicinity, or for Quasar to will a suit of golden, radiation-proof armor onto Gladiator, or something like that.

Granted, if the GLs decide to turn intangible there's really nothing Gladiator could do to them, so it's not a really big priority for the Annihilators.

[Captain Morgan]

I don't really think it would take all that much effort or will for Surfer to arrange to absorb any radiation of that spectrum in the general vicinity, or for Quasar to will a suit of golden, radiation-proof armor onto Gladiator, or something like that.

Granted, if the GLs decide to turn intangible there's really nothing Gladiator could do to them, so it's not a really big priority for the Annihilators.

It would need to be a radiation proof suit strong enough to not get torn by Lantern constructs or, for that matter, when Gladiator punches someone with planet sundering force. That's actually a pretty big ask when you've got someone who is about about even with you putting their entire focus on murdering you.

[Miracleman]

Gladiator has shown before breaking thru quasar's constructs. Given that GL's are powered by willpower and need it and concentration to maintain their force. That is asking alot against Gladiator who has shown that against quasar who LACKS those limitations like the GL's. http://i.imgur.com/qQICRl4.jpg

Gladiator also has other powers that cover distance...freeze breath strong enough to encase Wonder Man http://i.imgur.com/knvWWGo.jpg

Heat vision strong enough to match cyclops empowered cyclops http://i.imgur.com/Ejzm3kb.jpg

Silver Surfer also manipulated Dr. Spectrum's energy back into his own ring. Whom is a pastiche of the Green Lanterns. http://i.imgur.com/MB4mXYy.jpg

can tap into stars to boost items like a mindgem,not a stretch to apply that to quasar's quantum bands. http://i.imgur.com/ttDs94y.jpg

tanked a shot from michael korvac. http://i.imgur.com/YdaxMmX.jpg

Despite speed being equalized.....Gladiator and Surfer especially have too many options and are on a higher level of power.

[Pendaran]

tanked a shot from michael korvac. http://i.imgur.com/YdaxMmX.jpg

Even for the Surfer, considering what Korvac was supposed to be and how casually he did up other people like Thor and Hercules, that was too good a showing.

Gladiator has shown before breaking thru quasar's constructs. Given that GL's are powered by willpower and need it and concentration to maintain their force. That is asking alot against Gladiator who has shown that against quasar who LACKS those limitations like the GL's. http://i.imgur.com/qQICRl4.jpg

Gladiator also has other powers that cover distance...freeze breath strong enough to encase Wonder Man http://i.imgur.com/knvWWGo.jpg

Lanterns can turn intangible, at which point none of these things are problems.

Yes, otherwise, the Surfer has certainly done some crazy crap, but he's up against a speed equalized Kyle Rayner for instance, who has contained supernovas through intense effort and a variety of other jazz on that level. Kyle can certainly hold his own with the guy for a while, and Hal can hold his own with Quasar for a while Guy and John deal with Gladiator and Ronan, then go gang up on the Surfer with Kyle.

[Captain Morgan]

Gladiator has shown before breaking thru quasar's constructs. Given that GL's are powered by willpower and need it and concentration to maintain their force. That is asking alot against Gladiator who has shown that against quasar who LACKS those limitations like the GL's. http://i.imgur.com/qQICRl4.jpg

Gladiator also has other powers that cover distance...freeze breath strong enough to encase Wonder Man http://i.imgur.com/knvWWGo.jpg

Heat vision strong enough to match cyclops empowered cyclops http://i.imgur.com/Ejzm3kb.jpg

Silver Surfer also manipulated Dr. Spectrum's energy back into his own ring. Whom is a pastiche of the Green Lanterns. http://i.imgur.com/MB4mXYy.jpg

can tap into stars to boost items like a mindgem,not a stretch to apply that to quasar's quantum bands. http://i.imgur.com/ttDs94y.jpg

tanked a shot from michael korvac. http://i.imgur.com/YdaxMmX.jpg

Despite speed being equalized.....Gladiator and Surfer especially have too many options and are on a higher level of power.

Yes, we are all aware that Gladiator and Surfer are very powerful. The rest of us are also aware that Kyle does stuff like:

Repair and recreate machines which hold entire strings of planets in place.

https://static1.comicvine.com/upload...vensladder.jpg

Generates force fields around the moon (which he then leaves alone to go do other things) which Ultraman can't break through despite HOURS of attempts.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads...for+hours2.jpg
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads...for+hours3.jpg

Contains a nova.
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads...r_dc_1_mil.png
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads...9592-12702.jpg

Absorbs chronal energies which were causing the sun to super nova.
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads..._v3_166_17.jpg

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads...5111-29302.jpg
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads...blackhole2.jpg
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads...lind_super.jpg

Rebuilds a planet for the sake of a symbolic gesture.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads...8p221zr0in.jpg

He's plenty competitive here. Also, Gladiator is the only person here who can't do things like phase or counter intangibility, which is a problem.

[Pendaran]

Though thinking about it, if Wendell does just will the bands onto the Surfer, that's basically it.

[The Drunkard Kid]

Honestly, the Annihilators' best plan is for Quasar and Ronan to give Surfer their weapons, then go on a coffee run with Gladiator. Gladiator can toss Norrin his cape and/or mohawk as well so that he doesn't feel completely left out.

Though I'm wondering if Surfer could also put on, oh let's say, Guy's ring after tearing off his head and then kill the Lanterns with the resulting fashion monstrosity.

[Miracleman]

GL needs to concentrate to contain a supernova...Surfer,rides thru them for fun. http://i.imgur.com/lZ0n50N.jpg

Again,Surfer has shown from people like firelord,to unilord,the sun,and ikaris to absorb their energy. He even absorbs energy from blackholes. He has cast enough energy to cover ego the living planet. So what is to stop him from manipulating the GL's energy rings. He has already demonstrated such ability on a carbon copy of a similar character. Surfer has also hit vision while intangible. So again,what can the GL's do to stop Surfer?

Surfer can tap into their rings like he did to dr. spectrum. They are paste for Gladiator. Speed here is the same. So one doesn't have it over the other.

[Pendaran]

GL needs to concentrate to contain a supernova...Surfer,rides thru them for fun. http://i.imgur.com/lZ0n50N.jpg

I'm not sure how you feel that outpaces actually containing an exploding sun, to instead not deal with it at all but just move about one.

He has cast enough energy to cover ego the living planet.

issue number for this? Because there are a few Ego/surfer encounters, and one of them is in the non canonical Marvel Fanfare.

Again,Surfer has shown from people like firelord,to unilord,the sun,and ikaris to absorb their energy. He even absorbs energy from blackholes. He has cast enough energy to cover ego the living planet. So what is to stop him from manipulating the GL's energy rings. He has already demonstrated such ability on a carbon copy of a similar character. Surfer has also hit vision while intangible. So again,what can the GL's do to stop Surfer?

You've been given a litany of things that you've just been shown Kyle Rayner operating on par of, so I'm not sure at this point what your argument is beyond "I'm going to ignore Kyle Rayner's feats"?

They are paste for Gladiator.

They are intangible for Gladiator. You have not explained how Gladiator gets around this. You just keep repeating this.

Surfer can tap into their rings like he did to dr. spectrum.

And the lanterns can mess with the Surfer's personal energies, given what they do, to people's personal energies or just the energies of, y'know, time.

[Cronus]

GL needs to concentrate to contain a supernova...Surfer,rides thru them for fun. http://i.imgur.com/lZ0n50N.jpg

Again,Surfer has shown from people like firelord,to unilord,the sun,and ikaris to absorb their energy. He even absorbs energy from blackholes. He has cast enough energy to cover ego the living planet. So what is to stop him from manipulating the GL's energy rings. He has already demonstrated such ability on a carbon copy of a similar character. Surfer has also hit vision while intangible. So again,what can the GL's do to stop Surfer?

Surfer can tap into their rings like he did to dr. spectrum. They are paste for Gladiator. Speed here is the same. So one doesn't have it over the other.

But if speed is equalised, wouldn't that mean Gladiator would have to get to them before they fire off some energy esoterics? By speed equalised, I'm assuming all the characters have normal human reaction speed.

And those scans of Green Lantern were pretty convincing...

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[Pendaran]

Basically, that you find unacceptable the very idea that Kyle Rayner for instance has enough oomph and nuance to even just hold the Surfer off for a while, until Guy and John can come back him up and thus tip the scale in his favour, is odd, given Kyle's level of capacity. No one's even saying he could win on his own, just that he will hang in there until he can get backup. Which given that Gladiator can't do anything to intangible people while they scan him for weaknesses, and Ronan is not durable enough to really last all that long here, will be arriving.

Again, barring Quasar just giving the Surfer his bands. The bands as stacked with Surfer's power cosmic, that should do it.

[Miracleman]

I'm not sure how you feel that outpaces actually containing an exploding sun, to instead not deal with it at all but just move about one.



issue number for this? Because there are a few Ego/surfer encounters, and one of them is in the non canonical Marvel Fanfare.



You've been given a litany of things that you've just been shown Kyle Rayner operating on par of, so I'm not sure at this point what your argument is beyond "I'm going to ignore Kyle Rayner's feats"?



They are intangible for Gladiator. You have not explained how Gladiator gets around this. You just keep repeating this.



And the lanterns can mess with the Surfer's personal energies, given what they do, to people's personal energies or just the energies of, y'know, time.

Here is surfer doing his thing to ego http://i.imgur.com/uZl5MAf.jpg

Im not ignoring kyle rayner's feats,but some seem to be ignoring Surfer's feats. One can just do what he does,the other's wearing rings need to concentrate. That does make a difference.

I am not repeating anything,i am merely stating what surfer can do while Gladiator can do the other task at hand while surfer plays interference on their abilities.

And YA KNOW,Surfer can do the same thing as the rings,difference is. Can you say the lanterns operate on a higher level than the Surfer??? SInce we both are in agreement they can both do the same.

Or do you just want to Y'KNOW,repeat the same things while ignoring Surfer's very obvious feats. I mean y'know,right? Well.....are you right?

[Miracleman]

Basically, that you find unacceptable the very idea that Kyle Rayner for instance has enough oomph and nuance to even just hold the Surfer off for a while, until Guy and John can come back him up and thus tip the scale in his favour, is odd, given Kyle's level of capacity. No one's even saying he could win on his own, just that he will hang in there until he can get backup. Which given that Gladiator can't do anything to intangible people while they scan him for weaknesses, and Ronan is not durable enough to really last all that long here, will be arriving.

Again, barring Quasar just giving the Surfer his bands. The bands as stacked with Surfer's power cosmic, that should do it.

That's fine Y'know,as long as you find it acceptable. Well do you.......do you? do you? do you? do you? do you? do you?

[The Dork Knight]

Here is surfer doing his thing to ego http://i.imgur.com/uZl5MAf.jpg

Doesn't really seem to mesh with surfer basically fleeing for his life against Ego the first time he met him. Also your scan itself notes he's weakened

Im not ignoring kyle rayner's feats,but some seem to be ignoring Surfer's feats. One can just do what he does,the other's wearing rings need to concentrate. That does make a difference.

Nope. You're making a false equivalence. Flying through a supernova when the overall effect of these things stretches light years is taking only a small (miniscule) portion of the whole impact

Containing one within a construct is to contain the entire force of a star system destroying event

That's actually, in terms of sheer power, beyond what surfer has done although not by much and his ring crapped out whilst accomplishing stuff on this scale

[Miracleman]

Doesn't really seem to mesh with surfer basically fleeing for his life against Ego the first time he met him. Also your scan itself notes he's weakened



Nope. You're making a false equivalence. Flying through a supernova when the overall effect of these things stretches light years is taking only a small (miniscule) portion of the whole impact

Containing one within a construct is to contain the entire force of a star system destroying event

That's actually, in terms of sheer power, beyond what surfer has done although not by much and his ring crapped out whilst accomplishing stuff on this scale

So by your own words....you are claiming the GL's are superior in ability and firepower than Silver Surfer. So we can make that very clear.