Star Wars - The Last Jedi *new trailer* SPOILERS!

[ChrisIII]

Some interesting details I noticed...

1-If you look closely during the Walker scenes, you can see smaller walkers which more closely resemble the classic AT-ATs, although with what looks like a few cosmetic changes.

2-Likewise, during the big Imperial gathering in the hanger, you can see AT-ST style walkers around the place.


3-Curiously no signs of the Casino planet, Rose, or Holdo.

4-The shot of Kylo looking into the hanger looks a lot like the various scenes of Vader looking out star destroyers in the OT (Although Kylo did this himself in TFA).

5-Also, we now know why Kylo's shattered mask was smoking-he smashed it into a light.

[Sacred Knight]

Honestly that sounds terrible. And it'd make Rey look like a clueless moron.

She IS clueless, though. Portraying that wouldn't be anything wrong with her characterization, it would simply be a truth of her situation, and a truth of how the Force operates. She has all this power and doesn't know how to control it. Add to that the possibility that Luke isn't that great a teacher right now and terribly jaded, it makes perfect sense to me, and not at all moronic, for her to be scared and angry. The telltale means for the dark side to get its tendrils in. It'd just be a moment of confusion for an incredibly powerful person who cannot control said power.

But who knows, maybe she doesn't go willingly, maybe she's captured. I think that's a little superfluous after she already was captured in the last movie, but possible.

Either way I'm hoping the adorable scene of Chewie and the Porg's battle-cry ends up having Luke in the pilot seat, and that's the scene of them rocketing away to rescue Rey. I may be pushing it though to hope that Luke meditates or something after losing her, and any combo of Anakin, Obi-Wan, and Yoda get him back to sacking up and being the Jedi Master again.

[Starter Set]

Well, Luke is pretty much in the same spot than Yoda was. Old, most likely cranky and with all of what he lived for shattered to pieces cause of an emo pupil.

So yeah, wouldn't be surprised to see that he isn't exactly the teacher Rey hopes him to be.

Wild guess, she's going to leave before her training is finished to run confront Kylo. Totally not like what we may have seen happening in an another 1980 Star Wars movie.

Like, totally not, i swear. (be careful with your hands though girl, just in case, just in case)

[Sacred Knight]

I'm also thinking Snoke will be the one to out Rey as Luke's daughter. He does this during a duel with Luke in order to use the "deception" to turn Rey, only it doesn't work, and the revelation only affirms her allegiance to the light. She understands that, like Obi-Wan and Yoda before him, Luke hid her Skywalker legacy from her to unburden her from the tribulations of it before she was ready, and understands it more as an act of love as opposed to an act of deception.

For the lightsaber duels I'm going to go:

Luke vs. Snoke/Kylo Ren. Luke takes them both on at the same time trying to rescue Rey, while Rey is still still out of sorts from the dark side torture.

Luke vs. Snoke: Luke will briefly incapacitate Kylo for a period so the two Masters can have a one-on-one duel.

Rey vs. Kylo Ren II: After she gets her bearings back and affirms her allegiance to Luke, she joins the fight taking on Kylo Ren before the double team can fall upon Luke again.

No clear upper-hands here, the battles are again broken up due to mitigating circumstances and all four escape for Episode IX. Rey becomes the first Skywalker to leave the middle episode of her saga without losing a limb.

[TheInvisibleMan]

my theory

Rey goes dark, kills or submits Kylo Ren

Finn has to save the day with his big thick manly lightsaber

[BeastieRunner]

My guess, and that's all it is, is Luke was talking about Vader, but knowing Disney, I'm probably wrong and he is talking about Snoke or Kylo.

In the movie Luke might be talking about Vader but the way the trailer is cut, it makes it appear to be Kylo.

Also, didn't the trailer pretty much confirm with that statement that Kylo/Rey are related? We just don't know how yet.

[Vegan Daddy]

Rey and Kylo reject their masters and go their own way. The Jedi and Sith are outmoded and self defeating. Time for a new breed. At least that's what I'm hoping for.

What's up with Finn? Does he go back to the Empire? He looks G'd up and angry.

[Starter Set]

Finn and Phasma are mainly what keep me interest in that movie. (and Poe, come on, gotta love Poe)

Really hope Finn doesn't end up as a force user though.

[TheInvisibleMan]

Finn and Phasma are mainly what keep me interest in that movie. (and Poe, come on, gotta love Poe)

Really hope Finn doesn't end up as a force user though.

why? got a problem with black people using the Force?

[Starter Set]

why? got a problem with black people using the Force?

Dude really? Straight down to calling me a racist cause for once, just for once, i would like to have a main character who doesn't use a lightsaber?

Having a bad day or something? Wanna talk about it?

[The Whovian]

Just rewatched it and I stand corrected. Rey was meditating when the rock broke.

Right. That's why he was so concerned about her power. She wasn't even trying to use the force that way. She was simply meditating and she cracked the ground. Luke was clearly rattled by that. To me, that shows that Rey is the most powerful. She may not be the most effective right now because she hasn't been properly trained, but she is the most powerful. Just look at Luke's expression when she does that.

[Za Waldo]

Rey and Kylo reject their masters and go their own way. The Jedi and Sith are outmoded and self defeating. Time for a new breed. At least that's what I'm hoping for.

What's up with Finn? Does he go back to the Empire? He looks G'd up and angry.

Would be nice if they got the Force to a places where there were a whole bunch of schools of it and not just two. Then again, that's someplace they could have just started if that's what they wanted to do.

my theory

Rey goes dark, kills or submits Kylo Ren

Finn has to save the day with his big thick manly lightsaber

Sounds like the porno parody.

[TheInvisibleMan]

Sounds like the porno parody.

take it as you will

[BeastieRunner]

Right. That's why he was so concerned about her power. She wasn't even trying to use the force that way. She was simply meditating and she cracked the ground. Luke was clearly rattled by that. To me, that shows that Rey is the most powerful. She may not be the most effective right now because she hasn't been properly trained, but she is the most powerful. Just look at Luke's expression when she does that.

Luke said he wasn't scared enough of that raw power before but he is now. So maybe it is Kylo?

[The Whovian]

Luke said he wasn't scared enough of that raw power before but he is now. So maybe it is Kylo?

I took it as he sees Rey as the most powerful force wielder now and she's not even fully trained and it kind of scares him.