Star Wars - The Last Jedi *new trailer* SPOILERS!

[Elmo]

why? got a problem with black people using the Force?

this is so unnecessary lmao chill out man

[Za Waldo]

He sort of did...in his second movie (and final as an adult). Fett had no action scenes to speak of in THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK and his performance in RETURN OF THE JEDI was notoriously pathetic.

Buried Alien (The Fastest Post Alive!)

He didn't need no action scene.

[Starter Set]

what about phasma keeps you interested in this movie?

Oh it's easy, first : round 2 vs Finn, first round ended on a kinda weird (and not even shown, what the hell?) dive into a trash compactor. Pretty sure she wants to settle the score. Second, the mystery. What is she about? Does she like strawberry? Or is she more team blueberry? Why the unique armor? Is she a special snowflake?

Which is also something cool with Finn, what direction are they going to take with him? Many possibilities.

But Rey and the masked menace? Well, good, grey or bad, Luke side or lackey of the emperor wannabe, i'm already bored.

[People Of The Earth]

Trailer 2 hits



Not sure I like all of what I saw, but it has me intrigued a great deal. A little darker, but not too dark to cease being Star Wars.

I guess I just don't like Kylo Ren at all.
It feels like this movie will try to push him to a place where I should care about the guy somehow, but I just don't.
Angstyness is just not appealing to me at all.
Trailer could have used more Finn and Poe, oh well.

[rpmaluki]

I guess I just don't like Kylo Ren at all.
It feels like this movie will try to push him to a place where I should care about the guy somehow, but I just don't.
Angstyness is just not appealing to me at all.
Trailer could have used more Finn and Poe, oh well.

I wholeheartedly agree.

[People Of The Earth]

Hmm, why Luke is giving into fear ? Wasn't Yoda warning him about that in the original trilogy ? I found that part super odd.

[David Walton]

Still sucks that Han, Luke and Leia all basically ended up a bunch of miserable failures. The Empire is still kicking in the form of the First Order. Their New Republic was apparently an ineffective government that just got its capital blown up. Han and Leia's kid turned out to be a psychopath, destroyed Luke's attempt at rebuilding the Jedi, rendering him a recluse, and then killed Han. Might as well just let the Empire win if the good guys are so goddamn pathetic at this point.
Still this looks pretty epic, I hope it's better than Force Awakens.

Mistakes have been made, but I wouldn't say they're 'miserable failures.' If you go that far you're basically holding them accountable for circumstances that are largely outside their control. They can guide but they can't control others. Ben Solo made the decision to turn to the Dark Side of the Force, not Han and Leia or Luke. And Leia can't single-handedly control the political landscape, because that would be everything they fought to oppose. The people and their elected leaders are free to make their own mistakes, and clearly they have with regard to The First Order, in spite of Leia's attempts to warn them.

[David Walton]

Hmm, why Luke is giving into fear ? Wasn't Yoda warning him about that in the original trilogy ? I found that part super odd.

Sure, he's falling into the old trap, but he's only human. And Yoda himself was guilty of that to a certain extent--so afraid of everything Vader represented that he couldn't see the wisdom in Luke's attempts to find the good in his father.

[David Walton]

Still iffy on what they're doing with Luke. I don't really buy him taking this as the big message from Kylo's fall, but we'll see if they can make that believable.

Going by interviews, Mark Hamill didn't initially agree with some decisions regarding Luke's character either. It sounds like he was eventually won over and is excited by the direction things are going.

[TheInvisibleMan]

but it seems like the First Order is basically a free floating militia, they don't hold any systems or are in government like the Empire were

[David Walton]

but it seems like the First Order is basically a free floating militia, they don't hold any systems or are in government like the Empire were

Yeah, I don't think they've done a great job conveying what exactly the First Order entails. If they don't hold any systems I get the impression they're at least headed in that direction. Maybe they're mostly at the conceptual level at this point but I think they've already gotten a foothold in some of the systems that feel like post-Empire democracy has failed them.

[Iron_Legion87]

That trailer is EPIC with a lot to speculate about. I get an Empire Strikes Back vibe from it but it seems there will be some big twists to the formula. It would be a shocker to see Rey turn to the dark side and Kylo turn to the light. Also, it seems Leia and/or Luke will probably die in this movie as well. I am hyped beyond belief for this movie even more than I am for Thor Ragnorok and Justice League.

[Iron_Legion87]

Dude really? Straight down to calling me a racist cause for once, just for once, i would like to have a main character who doesn't use a lightsaber?

Having a bad day or something? Wanna talk about it?

The only force users in the OT was Luke and Darth Vader and secondary characters Obi-Wan Kenobi and Yoda . Luke was the only force user out of the three main characters of him, Leia, and Han. I won't mind Fin being a force user in addition to Rey. Poe probably won't be a force user so you will at least have one character who doesn't use a lightsaber.

[David Walton]

One of the things Mark Hamill always wanted to do was to have Luke turn to the Dark Side in the OT and be rescued by his friends.

I wonder if we could see that play out with Rey? Probably not, but it seems like something a lot of people have been wanting to see for a while. Especially when you consider how Dark Horse kicked off the whole extended SW universe with Luke turning to the Dark Side...

[David Walton]

I don't think Luke will die in this film or the next. If they want to set the tone for something truly new, there's got to be a mentor figure who lives long enough to pass on some real (and continuing) wisdom to his or her protégés. Plus, Mark Hamill is constantly improving as an actor, and you don't want to waste that. Han is already dead. I don't think they would have killed Leia, but I'm not sure how they'll handle Carrie Fisher's passing. I think we'll see some great things from her in this film.