Should Sue Storm be a doctor?

[Crimz]

Probably not the most original idea, but I could see Sue as a triple threat with PhD's in Archaeology, Anthropology and Linguistics/Cognitive Sciences. A medical degree just seems too limiting. Reed would have a hard time keeping up with her, because she'd always be in the field, on different continents, or exploring nearby realms like Asgard, K'un-Lun, Atlantis, the Negative Zone, etc. She would have a host of adventures outside of the FF, but at the same time could be the driving force behind some of their greatest adventures. Sue leading the charge would be an awesome change.

That's an interesting choice, it doesn't encroach on Reed's scientific role (even though I don't think being a doctor would) and it lets her take point in the other aspect of the FF, exploration. I really like the idea, I just wonder how it would be implemented.

The more I think about it, the more I love this idea. It would fit with her personality, trying to learn the culture and language of other cultures and alien species to help foster relations with humans.

[Sutekh]

Normally I'd say no, preferring the idea of her being the business woman who keeps the whole shebang running (and Reed being a Tesla sort of genius, whiz bang at inventing, flat out terrible at patenting or marketing his inventions, making his financial success almost entirely her doing).

However, I love your notion of her being the super-doctor to the rest of the Marvel Universe. It's kind of weird how the heroes of the Marvel Universe have multiple *therapists* they can visit, from Doc Samson to Doctor Voodoo to, if they want to take their lives in their own hands, Dr. Karla Sofen, but so few actual medical professionals on their contact lists. (The mutants seem to coast by with the Morlock Healer, Elixir or Triage, whichever is 'in' this week, but the Avengers? Hank McCoy does some doctoring, but he's not an actual medical doctor. Thor seems to have forgotten anything he knew as Donald Blake. The other Thor, Jane Foster, is on the way out the door, most likely...)

Sue could totally fill that niche, and you're totally right in that it could bring her into more regular use outside of the Fantastic Four / mother-Franklin-and-Valeria dynamic she's been stuck in for ages. Just as Reed's Illuminati clique and Ben's floating poker game and Johnny's wandering peen put them into regular contact with all sorts of heroes outside of the team, Sue could definitely benefit from being a superhuman medical specialist.

And using her combination of making people's bodies partially invisible and forming force field scalpels just makes how utterly terrifying she can be that much more so!

[Zero Hunter]

If anything it might be cool to see Johnny grow up and study medicine. Maybe he could becomes a paramedic. Johnny needs a new niche much more than Sue does in my opinion since he is just getting too old to be the lovable screwup anymore.

[SignorMiracolo]

No, absolutely no. Her having a title or job so that could feel as equals to the other, just because she's female, would mean the opposite of you think. Ben and Johnny doesn't have a title or a job, so why she should have one to feel equal? She manages to be a super hero and the mother of two small children. What the hell she should do more than that? Reed doesn't do nothing except sitting in his lab. Ben and Johnny spend all their time bickering and making fun of each other like two teenager and Sue is the one that has to study or have a profession to show she's at par with them? Like hell.

[Crimz]

If anything it might be cool to see Johnny grow up and study medicine. Maybe he could becomes a paramedic. Johnny needs a new niche much more than Sue does in my opinion since he is just getting too old to be the lovable screwup anymore.

I personally prefer that he learns some form of engineering as that has precedence with his history and it's cool seeing him helping out with Reed's inventions. I think both Storm siblings need to be grow and develop something outside of the team and be more than an archetype.

Here's Johnny showing enthusiasm and a talent for engineering:

No, absolutely no. Her having a title or job so that could feel as equals to the other, just because she's female, would mean the opposite of you think. Ben and Johnny doesn't have a title or a job, so why she should have one to feel equal? She manages to be a super hero and the mother of two small children. What the hell she should do more than that? Reed doesn't do nothing except sitting in his lab. Ben and Johnny spend all their time bickering and making fun of each other like two teenager and Sue is the one that has to study or have a profession to show she's at par with them? Like hell.

Ben is an experienced pilot, astronaut, and ex war vet.
Johnny has shown a love and talent for engineering since the Lee/Kirby run (and I wish he would pursue it more as he regresses each run).
Reed doesn't just "sit in his lab all day" he is the smartest man in the universe.

Sue has shown nothing like that for herself, her life shouldn't revolve around Reed and the kids and she should have aspirations and something for herself. The others are not as bound to the team as Sue. I honestly don't see the problem with her making something of herself outside of the family and team.

[SignorMiracolo]

Ben is an experienced pilot, astronaut, and ex war vet.
Johnny has shown a love and talent for engineering since the Lee/Kirby run (and I wish he would pursue it more as he regresses each run).
Reed doesn't just "sit in his lab all day" he is the smartest man in the universe.

Sue has shown nothing like that for herself, her life shouldn't revolve around Reed and the kids and she should have aspirations and something for herself. The others are not as bound to the team as Sue. I honestly don't see the problem with her making something of herself outside of the family and team.

As I see it, Reed mainly creates problem that they then have to solve. Ben either is sulking in a corner or breaking things and when Johnny is not making fun of Ben is out on some shallow sentimental pursue. Sue is the more grounded, they should aspire to be more like her and not vice versa.

[Crimz]

As I see it, Reed mainly creates problem that they then have to solve. Ben either is sulking in a corner or breaking things and when Johnny is not making fun of Ben is out on some shallow sentimental pursue. Sue is the more grounded, they should aspire to be more like her and not vice versa.

That's just the most basic view of their dynamic and it's something that doesn't happen for every story. Not every FF adventure is like that and it shouldn't be as that gets boring fast. What's the problem with letting these characters grow beyond their archetypes (some of them have already)?

• Make Johnny more mature (and it sticks this time) as well as an engineer.
• Ben has mostly gotten over his fate as the rock monster and sulking about it. When he was on Guardians of the Galaxy it mentioned how much he loved being an astronaut up in space.
• Reed has mostly gotten over the choosing between science and his family stuff.
• Sue having aspirations outside of the family, she may want to become a doctor which allows her a role that not only helps her family but also the MU. She'd no longer be bound solely to her family

I see no problem with allowing the FF to grow beyond the same repeated stories and dynamics. The FF should be growing and changing like most other characters, them being stuck in the past is part of why they've fallen so low in sales and perception.

[Michael Watkins]

I personally prefer that he learns some form of engineering as that has precedence with his history and it's cool seeing him helping out with Reed's inventions. I think both Storm siblings need to be grow and develop something outside of the team and be more than an archetype.

Here's Johnny showing enthusiasm and a talent for engineering:

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so they clearly recognized that Johnny had to be more. wish they had followed suit with Sue. it should be Reed (leader), Ben (pilot), Sue (medic), and Johnny (mechanic).

[DragonsChi]

I'm not opposed to the idea of Sue being a doctor. I do however, think it's somewhat to late for her to become one without a major recon of her and the FF history. So for that reason I voted no.

If started out as a doctor it would be another story but doing it now wouldn't really make any sense. It takes 8-10 years of study to become a medical doctor and she is the primary caretaker of two very young kids. On top of which she is also the primary caretaker of all the Future Foundation kids. Even without the burden of Superheroing added in when would she even have the time to obtain that kind of degree? Not only that the MU time scale would have her as a student for so long by the time she actually got her degree she would be on the road of retiring as a superhero all together.

This is assuming the Marvel team wouldn't just wave a wand and give her a degree without earning it. Even with a recon that she was earning her degree when the FF first got started wouldn't line up with her age or the stories of the time. Simply because she didn't have the time.


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[Michael Watkins]

I'm not opposed to the idea of Sue being a doctor. I do however, think it's somewhat to late for her to become one without a major recon of her and the FF history. So for that reason I voted no.

If started out as a doctor it would be another story but doing it now wouldn't really make any sense. It takes 8-10 years of study to become a medical doctor and she is the primary caretaker of two very young kids. On top of which she is also the primary caretaker of all the Future Foundation kids. Even without the burden of Superheroing added in when would she even have the time to obtain that kind of degree? Not only that the MU time scale would have her as a student for so long by the time she actually got her degree she would be on the road of retiring as a superhero all together.

This is assuming the Marvel team wouldn't just wave a wand and give her a degree without earning it. Even with a recon that she was earning her degree when the FF first got started wouldn't line up with her age or the stories of the time. Simply because she didn't have the time.


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to play devil's advocate, how do you think she's spending her time; right now? and keep in mind that we saw Franklin and Val by themselves in issue 1 of Legacy.

[DragonsChi]

to play devil's advocate, how do you think she's spending her time; right now? and keep in mind that we saw Franklin and Val by themselves in issue 1 of Legacy.

Val and Franklin said they where finding and exploring universes. Along with all the kids they kept with them.

So my guess would be exploring universes and taking care of all the kids in her care.

[Crimz]

I'm not opposed to the idea of Sue being a doctor. I do however, think it's somewhat to late for her to become one without a major recon of her and the FF history. So for that reason I voted no.

If started out as a doctor it would be another story but doing it now wouldn't really make any sense. It takes 8-10 years of study to become a medical doctor and she is the primary caretaker of two very young kids. On top of which she is also the primary caretaker of all the Future Foundation kids. Even without the burden of Superheroing added in when would she even have the time to obtain that kind of degree? Not only that the MU time scale would have her as a student for so long by the time she actually got her degree she would be on the road of retiring as a superhero all together.

This is assuming the Marvel team wouldn't just wave a wand and give her a degree without earning it. Even with a recon that she was earning her degree when the FF first got started wouldn't line up with her age or the stories of the time. Simply because she didn't have the time.


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These are comics we're talking about crazier things happen all the time, it wouldn't be unusual for her to get the necessary training without her aging or taking decades in real-time. Especially with being on the Fantastic Four where time-space shenanigans happen often. It could be happening right now while their off rebuilding the multiverse, time might move differently out there and the kids seem to be off exploring by themselves that gives her time away from them to train. There is also Reed, Dragon Man, and Alex who can help look after the younger kids currently.

[Michael Watkins]

These are comics we're talking about crazier things happen all the time, it wouldn't be unusual for her to get the necessary training without her aging or taking decades in real-time. Especially with being on the Fantastic Four where time-space shenanigans happen often. It could be happening right now while their off rebuilding the multiverse, time might move differently out there and the kids seem to be off exploring by themselves that gives her time away from them to train. There is also Reed, Dragon Man, and Alex who can help look after the younger kids currently.

for instance, remember when Rick Jones was a struggling musician and not smart enough to hack SHIELD?

[Mutant God]

to play devil's advocate, how do you think she's spending her time; right now? and keep in mind that we saw Franklin and Val by themselves in issue 1 of Legacy.

I guess she could spend her time going through different universes and seeing the different career paths she could have chosen and comes back to her universe and goes and takes that path.

Actually instead of a medical doctor I could see her becoming a mental doctor since shes the one consoles the other team members mentally and helps something that Reed can't do because hes not really that sociable, in some stories, and it could help deal with Valeria a kid who is smarter then their parent. I remember in one issue where Sue was reading fan letters that was asking for her help/advice so maybe that could be follow with her giving people advice and helping them with their emotions.

[Michael Watkins]

I guess she could spend her time going through different universes and seeing the different career paths she could have chosen and comes back to her universe and goes and takes that path.

Actually instead of a medical doctor I could see her becoming a mental doctor since shes the one consoles the other team members mentally and helps something that Reed can't do because hes not really that sociable, in some stories, and it could help deal with Valeria a kid who is smarter then their parent. I remember in one issue where Sue was reading fan letters that was asking for her help/advice so maybe that could be follow with her giving people advice and helping them with their emotions.

that could work. a lot of us were going the medic route because her father was a surgeon. I don't have any preference. I just want her to have her own niche within the group. Ben has a resume as a soldier, an athlete, and a pilot. Johnny's known as a gear head. Reed's a polymath and an explorer; prior to the Four. Sue is pretty much known for being an aspiring actress for a short minute and, unexplainedly, teaching at a private school during one run. I'd settle for her continuing to teach, actually.