View Poll Results: Should Sue become a doctor?

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    Quote Originally Posted by daBronzeBomma View Post
    Why would the timing be odd? Not current with 616 FF.
    they are out there rebuilding the multi-verse; with extended family, in tow. I'm just trying to picture their grand return and Sue throwing her wedding ring at him. why now when the events of Civil War weren't enough?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Maiden View Post
    Yeah, but UFF sure did end up very weird. It was almost like Sue was going to assault Reed or something. I guess she and Ultimate Ben didn't make it through the final incursion.
    I got out before Ultimatum, when the going was good.
    With UFF I called it a day with the end of Mike Carey's New Gods homage run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by majormcmeat View Post
    Seems pretty arbitrary.
    Ben and Johnny aren't exactly career-oriented either.
    There's nothing wrong with being "just" a wife and mother, which Sue isn't anyway considering she's also a strong-willed superhero and the most powerful member of the team.
    It's not as if she stays in the kitchen keeping her thoughts to herself while letting the men solve all the problems.

    There's nothing wrong with the characters beyond being treated like absolute rubbish recently.

    The only thing Sue needs is Fantastic Four relaunch with a good creative team.
    But she is the only one who is stuck on the FF. The others get to do things outside of the team and family all the time, but she is stuck there. There is nothing wrong with expanding her opportunities and horizons. It's frustrating seeing her tied down by the family aspect when the others get to go off and play in the MU.

    A good creative team will know that the FF need to grow and develop instead of repeating the same things forever. There is no downside to giving Sue aspirations outside of Reed and the kids, in fact it's something that needs to happen. It may not be her being a doctor specifically, but she needs something.
    Last edited by Crimz; 10-19-2017 at 04:11 PM.
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    outside of the intellect upgrade, I wouldn't mind the return of the Liberators concept. Deodato jr draws a great Sue.


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    I wish that She-Hulk was still with the Fantastic Four. she could really use them to lean on, right now.

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    Does Sue know that Reed is out there somewhere repairing the cosmos?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JudicatorPrime View Post
    Does Sue know that Reed is out there somewhere repairing the cosmos?
    wasn't she with him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JudicatorPrime View Post
    Does Sue know that Reed is out there somewhere repairing the cosmos?
    She's with him doing who knows what while he, Franklin, and Molecule Man create universes that the Future Foundation then explores. This just highlights the problem with Sue to me as she has no reason to be there other than Reed and the kids being there. She isn't apart of the rebuilding or the exploration, she's just there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crimz View Post
    She's with him doing who knows what while he, Franklin, and Molecule Man create universes that the Future Foundation then explores. This just highlights the problem with Sue to me as she has no reason to be there other than Reed and the kids being there.
    A voice of reason / a different viewpoint isn't important?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crimz View Post
    She's with him doing who knows what while he, Franklin, and Molecule Man create universes that the Future Foundation then explores. This just highlights the problem with Sue to me as she has no reason to be there other than Reed and the kids being there. She isn't apart of the rebuilding or the exploration, she's just there.
    Hmmm ... if I were tasked with turning Sue Storm into a legitimate alpha hero for Marvel ...

    1. Name change on personal and professional fronts. Let's start here.

    1a. "Sue Storm" sounds too much like Storm (Ororo Munroe, aka The other true contender for Queen Marvel) and too youngish / 1960s style. Also, alliteration doesn't suit every comic book character.

    "Susan Richards", even tho not her maiden name, sounds more modern and grown ... And powerful.

    1b. "The Invisible Woman" is a Terrible codename. It sounds like negative social commentary everytime I hear it. It can be used as a descriptor like "Firestorm: the Nuclear Man" or "Batman: the Dark Knight", but not as her actual codename.

    There's got to be a root word that suggests "unseen but powerful" that she can use. Something to do with wind, maybe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carabas View Post
    I got out before Ultimatum, when the going was good.
    With UFF I called it a day with the end of Mike Carey's New Gods homage run.
    Good move there. To this day I still don't know what Marvel/Loeb were thinking with Ultimatum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daBronzeBomma View Post
    Hmmm ... if I were tasked with turning Sue Storm into a legitimate alpha hero for Marvel ...

    1. Name change on personal and professional fronts. Let's start here.

    1a. "Sue Storm" sounds too much like Storm (Ororo Munroe, aka The other true contender for Queen Marvel) and too youngish / 1960s style. Also, alliteration doesn't suit every comic book character.

    "Susan Richards", even tho not her maiden name, sounds more modern and grown ... And powerful.

    1b. "The Invisible Woman" is a Terrible codename. It sounds like negative social commentary everytime I hear it. It can be used as a descriptor like "Firestorm: the Nuclear Man" or "Batman: the Dark Knight", but not as her actual codename.

    There's got to be a root word that suggests "unseen but powerful" that she can use. Something to do with wind, maybe.
    I prefer Susan Storm-Richards also. Sue hasn't been going by her maiden name for a while so there should be no confusion with Storm. Even Doom calls her Mrs Richards most of the time.

    I think Invisible Woman is fine. Some of the good code names are taken ....like Ghost or Phantasma.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MajorHoy View Post
    A voice of reason / a different viewpoint isn't important?
    She has no inclusion on any aspect of the multiverse rebuilding/exploration. To me it highlights her problem, she's on the sidelines possibly giving advice instead apart of the expedition fully. She should be deep in the exploration part either by being the medic making sure everyone is safe and handling injuries or spearheading the exploration as an experienced adventurer/archaeologist, Indiana Jones type.

    Quote Originally Posted by daBronzeBomma View Post
    Hmmm ... if I were tasked with turning Sue Storm into a legitimate alpha hero for Marvel ...

    1. Name change on personal and professional fronts. Let's start here.

    1a. "Sue Storm" sounds too much like Storm (Ororo Munroe, aka The other true contender for Queen Marvel) and too youngish / 1960s style. Also, alliteration doesn't suit every comic book character.

    "Susan Richards", even tho not her maiden name, sounds more modern and grown ... And powerful.

    1b. "The Invisible Woman" is a Terrible codename. It sounds like negative social commentary everytime I hear it. It can be used as a descriptor like "Firestorm: the Nuclear Man" or "Batman: the Dark Knight", but not as her actual codename.

    There's got to be a root word that suggests "unseen but powerful" that she can use. Something to do with wind, maybe.
    She usually goes by Richards or Storm-Richards anyway. There has been no problems having the same surname as Storm's codename before, so there shouldn't be a problem now.

    I personally like her codename, when trying to think of new ones they usually feel forced and ill-fitting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crimz View Post
    She usually goes by Richards or Storm-Richards anyway. There has been no problems having the same surname as Storm's codename before, so there shouldn't be a problem now.
    Methinks there hasn't been a "problem" because it's not close to a competition at this point: say Marvel and Storm, I'd wager over 9 out of 10 would think Ororo and not Susan.

    Kinda like saying DC and Kent, over 9 out of 10 go to Superman and not Kent Nelson aka Dr. Fate.

    Susan seems barely an afterthought by Marvel compared to Ororo, who herself seems barely an afterthought by Marvel compared to Carol.


    I personally like her codename, when trying to think of new ones they usually feel forced and ill-fitting.
    Hmmm ... let me think .... hmm ...

    "InvisiBelle: the Telekinetic Woman"

    "InvinciBelle: the Invisible Woman"

    Yeah, this may be harder than I thought.

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