How to Fix the Inhumans?

[OptimusPrime114]

I've been working on a fanfic Marvel Comics alternate universe for a long time now. Recently, I've learned how extremely problematic the Inhumans' history has been, with many people have been calling them out on their isolationist and xenophobic behavior, their belief in their notorious caste system, their slavery over the Alpha Primitives, and their Genetic Council's decisions regarding Attilan's citizens.

I need help on how to make my version of the Inhumans as very unproblematic or not problematic at all.

[Iron Fist]

All of these issues were resolved years ago, genetic council disbanded, alphas were freed of servitude and aren't isolationists anymore since Black Bolt's T-Bomb. All pretty common knowledge, if you read the books.

Next.

[OptimusPrime114]

All of these issues were resolved years ago, genetic council disbanded, alphas were freed of servitude and aren't isolationists anymore since Black Bolt's T-Bomb. All pretty common knowledge, if you read the books.

Next.

Wow. Didn't know that. Can you direct me to the comic issues where these problems were resolved?

[Iron Fist]

Wow. Didn't know that. Can you direct me to the comic issues where these problems were resolved?

The council were discharged of having power over attilan between atlantis rising and the jae lee run i think The characters are still there but they don't have any real power anymore.

Alphas we're all left to form their own society, with a handful choosing to continue serving the royals last seen in realm of kings.

New Attilan is in NYC so no longer isolationist ever since Inhuman/Inhumanity.

[Skedatz]

The council were discharged of having power over attilan between atlantis rising and the jae lee run i think The characters are still there but they don't have any real power anymore.

Alphas we're all left to form their own society, with a handful choosing to continue serving the royals last seen in realm of kings.

New Attilan is in NYC so no longer isolationist ever since Inhuman/Inhumanity.

Jae Lee sounds about right I think.

The Royal family just up and skipped town. I think Karnak is the only one left on Earth right now and maybe Triton, though he's probably still in a prison. Black Bolt just got out of Inhuman prison and Gorgon and Medusa are hooking up right now. One of the Nuhumans are tentatively in charge of New Attilan and if I'm remembering right and is trying to get some elected council going on. Basically they've sort of become, "Mutants if mutants had their own society and the world wasn't conspiring to make them not have one and were primarily American."

[Iron Fist]

Jae Lee sounds about right I think.

The Royal family just up and skipped town. I think Karnak is the only one left on Earth right now and maybe Triton, though he's probably still in a prison. Black Bolt just got out of Inhuman prison and Gorgon and Medusa are hooking up right now. One of the Nuhumans are tentatively in charge of New Attilan and if I'm remembering right and is trying to get some elected council going on. Basically they've sort of become, "Mutants if mutants had their own society and the world wasn't conspiring to make them not have one and were primarily American."

one thing missing from the Inhumans franchise atm is proper differentiation between western values and Attilan values. There's very little discussion or mention of what the Attilan culture is or how it meshes with the Nuhumans.

[Oberon]

YUP! The only part of their histories I would like to see resolved or clarified is

Sub-Inhuman groups like Bird People. How did they come about? How did they get their floating island, etc.

Possible historic/ancient connections to Eternals or Deviants?

Do we really know for sure that "mutant x-genes and Inhuman genes" cancel each other out - or what are the possible variations that could occur?

The Externals? Said to be Mutants who live forever or very, very long. Selene, etc. What is that true low-down? Are their gene/mixing from other off races; Eternals, Deviants, etc.

Just for starters.

[Iron Fist]

YUP! The only part of their histories I would like to see resolved or clarified is

Sub-Inhuman groups like Bird People. How did they come about? How did they get their floating island, etc.

Possible historic/ancient connections to Eternals or Deviants?

Do we really know for sure that "mutant x-genes and Inhuman genes" cancel each other out - or what are the possible variations that could occur?

The Externals? Said to be Mutants who live forever or very, very long. Selene, etc. What is that true low-down? Are their gene/mixing from other off races; Eternals, Deviants, etc.

Just for starters.

The flyer Inhumans history was told in an annual in the 60s. Bringing them back would be cool.

They don't cancel each other out, in Extraordinary X-Men (cringe) Mr Sinister made a Inhuman Mutant hybrid clone of Cyclops.

[Oberon]

After Wanda and Pietro were retconned to be non-mutants, but I guess sorta similar, my own fanfic is that High Evolutionary probably had some marker or gene-thing that prevents traits or genes from being inherited? Since Wanda's births were magical they are out of that situation.

I think it generally makes more sense that they don't cancel each other out. All human genes may bear markers, codes from their original modifications with Celestials, which opened up the possibilities for future mutations and/or future experimentation (Kree)

[Tofali]

Possible historic/ancient connections to Eternals or Deviants?

Connection in origins? Is this even relevant anymore?

[Oberon]

Why not. Earth is a small planet that has had thousands of year of various alien races coming here to much around. Malestrom, is an INhuman/Deviant offspring (unless that's been retconned).

[Sutekh]

Sub-Inhuman groups like Bird People. How did they come about? How did they get their floating island, etc.

There have been a few other 'repeat offenders' as well. Multiple plant/tree Inhumans (Timberius, Rootar?), at least three 'centaurs' (Stallior, Chiron and his brother), so I suspect that there's some manner by which someone can 'target' Terregenesis, so that a bird-people mommy and a bird-people daddy can have bird-people kids, and not spin-the-wheel-and-hope-for-the-best. That sort of selected options would *seem* to fly against the whole religious/spiritual aspect of Terregenesis, where one is supposed to sort of surrender to the process, and not try to make entire sub-races of bird people and centaur people and tree people.

Perhaps this sort of thing, which would have happened primarily pre-Black Bolt, would have been one of the sketchy/dubious practices of the Unspoken, that led to a number of people supporting Black Bolt's coup?

If Black Bolt was promising a return to 'traditional values' or a more fair and equitable system, where everyone, no matter how in favor with the king, had to take their chances at the Terregenesis lottery, and not get to custom-design their kids, I could see a motley crew of both religious traditionalists and more 'we want a fair process' types uniting to want to see the Unspoken ousted.

Do we really know for sure that "mutant x-genes and Inhuman genes" cancel each other out - or what are the possible variations that could occur?

That was canon, back in the day, but who knows, these days.

Back in the '80s, in Days of Future Past, the Sentinels had divided humanity up into mutants, latents with the potential to become mutants (so if a radioactive spider bit them, or they were exposed to cosmic rays or gamma rays or whatever, they'd 'mutate' and gain super-powers) and 'pure' humans (who, for whatever reason, utterly lacked the potential for mutation that the Celestials had engineered into proto-humanity, making these 'pure' people the rare individuals who, if exposed to gamma rays or cosmic rays or bitten by a radioactive spider, would lose their hair, crap out their guts and die a horrible death, and not gain super-powers...). It was *implied* that even a latent or a mutant got *one* of these things, and so there wouldn't be Spider-Hulks, or Mutants who were exposed to Cosmic Rays and became Fantastic Mutants, or Inhumans modified by the Super-Soldier formula, or any other crossing of the 'origin story' streams.

But that was decades ago, and there have been all sorts of weird hybrids since them, such as Maelstrom, who, IIRC, was a mutant Inhuman/Deviant hybrid, or the more recent 'American Kaiju' who gets his powers from a 'witches brew' of Super-Soldier formula, Gamma radiation, etc.

I prefer the 80s 'canon,' but it's a ship that's sailed, hit an iceberg and sank to the bottom of the sea.

I'm probably not going to be a huge help here because I think some of the more problematic aspects make them interesting. One way to do it is the way the show does it - it's done out of necessity due to lack of resources and they don't have an explicit slave race (just very strict limits on jobs).

I'm of the same opinion. I want them to be 'problematic.' It's what makes them interesting, like an *alien culture* should be. It also helps to differentiate them from mutants, which, IMO, is a good thing. We already have mutants. We don't need inhumans to be a metaphor for them.

[Skedatz]

I've been working on a fanfic Marvel Comics alternate universe for a long time now. Recently, I've learned how extremely problematic the Inhumans' history has been, with many people have been calling them out on their isolationist and xenophobic behavior, their belief in their notorious caste system, their slavery over the Alpha Primitives, and their Genetic Council's decisions regarding Attilan's citizens.

I need help on how to make my version of the Inhumans as very unproblematic or not problematic at all.

Fix in what way? In a way that makes them not isolationist, xenophobic, caste and slavery driven eugenic society?

Some say that's what made them truly... well... inhuman.

[OptimusPrime114]

Fix in what way? In a way that makes them not isolationist, xenophobic, caste and slavery driven eugenic society?

Some say that's what made them truly... well... inhuman.

True, but they can be better people if they wanted to be.

[Skedatz]

True, but they can be better people if they wanted to be.

Personally? Barring the whole slavery angle, part of what I enjoyed about their society is how they weren't a society how we value one. Their values, goals, and even conduct were very different from our own and warranted distrust from both sides, making them wary partners on a planet they had to share with the greater heroic world. Sort of like Wakanda. Turning them into something, "more acceptable to us," drained some of that special nature for me.