Is it time for a hard reboot on Spidey?

[SuperiorIronman]

Superior Spidey was a few months, PI was probably around a year.

*in real time*

[The Whovian]

Absolutely not. Undo everything that Slott has built up to this point? That would be a terrible decision. Peter is doing great right now. The ONLY thing Marvel needs to do is cancel out OMD somehow and put Peter and MJ back together and everything will be right again.

[Spidey5640]

It's never happened ever.

When fans complain that storylines "don't matter" and long for "permanent consequences," I think they don't understand how serialized comics work.

There's no change that's ever happened that either hasn't or that can't be undone.

You're talking about a story that never ends involving a character that will never age past a certain point. Every story matters but just not in the way they would for characters who age like real people, grow, experience actual change and eventually die. And this applies to every single superhero character, not just Spidey.

By your logic then no story would ever matter. Fans shouldn't care about continuity or even the character himself. Spidey can become a space cadet and it would fine because it could be undone.

[Pav]

By your logic then no story would ever matter. Fans shouldn't care about continuity or even the character himself. Spidey can become a space cadet and it would fine because it could be undone.

The Death of Aunt May from ASM #400 is still a touching, emotional story that matters to me, even if it was undone eventually. The story still exists and can be appreciated on its own merit.

-Pav, who probably shouldn't even read this thread...

[Miles To Go]

The Death of Aunt May from ASM #400 is still a touching, emotional story that matters to me, even if it was undone eventually. The story still exists and can be appreciated on its own merit.

-Pav, who probably shouldn't even read this thread...

And accepted even more so by it still being allowed to matter in a much more natural and logical continuity.

Absolutely not. Undo everything that Slott has built up to this point? That would be a terrible decision

I don't see a downside. How many stories outside of Superior can you objectively say were remotely memorable from this era?

Also, in-story Peter's not "doing great" at all.

[Pav]

And accepted even more so by it still being allowed to matter in a much more natural and logical continuity.



I don't see a downside. How many stories outside of Superior can you objectively say were remotely memorable from this era?

Also, in-story Peter's not "doing great" at all.

*Internal screaming*

Objectively memorable?!?!?!?!

-Pav, who can't stand it...

[The Whovian]

I don't see a downside. How many stories outside of Superior can you objectively say were remotely memorable from this era?

Also, in-story Peter's not "doing great" at all.

I consider the whole Slott run as great and they're all memorable. To me. Maybe not to you, and that's okay. But IMO, Slott has taken Peter from a working stiff doing work at the Bugle to a character who has completely tapped into his potential and created a global company on par with anything Stark has done.

In addition to that, he has grown in his ability to enhance his tech and thereby making him a much better hero, which is a natural progression for someone with his brilliance.

You want him going back to working at the Bugle? Wondering how he's going to pay his rent? The same villains kicking his butt because he doesn't adapt and improve? The 'old Parker luck'? If that is what you want, then yes, I'm sure you want a hard reboot.

Me? I prefer a character constantly moving forward, maturing and progressing into what he should be doing. You don't see Stark working at Radio Shack do you?

[Bor]

And accepted even more so by it still being allowed to matter in a much more natural and logical continuity.



I don't see a downside. How many stories outside of Superior can you objectively say were remotely memorable from this era?

Also, in-story Peter's not "doing great" at all.

Talking about whether a story is “objectively” memorable is silly.

[RD!]

Why can't Spider-man just go back to college?

He's still a young man (despite what some reads want to think). All you have to do is say "he left school for a while to find himself, or because of complications in his life, or whatever, and now he's back."

Depends what your definition of ‘young’ is

This is a person who has been married, published a novel, been on trial for murder, fathered a child, got a doctorate and both ran and destroyed a global company. You can’t say that person is still 25.

If you do, look to his peer group. Are Harry or Flash or Betty written like early 20s people ?

[WebLurker]

Talking about whether a story is “objectively” memorable is silly.

How many stories are actually "memorable" in the first place?

[RD!]

The Death of Aunt May from ASM #400 is still a touching, emotional story that matters to me, even if it was undone eventually. The story still exists and can be appreciated on its own merit.

-Pav, who probably shouldn't even read this thread...

It still brings tears to my eyes every time I read it

[boots]

Talking about whether a story is “objectively” memorable is silly.

i think it's even moreso the idea that a bleeding memory can be objective that finally killed poor old pav

and my two cents as a creator: reboots are cleaner. i'd do what the cartoons do and start a whole new take every few years.

but, you can't reboot spidey without a universe wide reboot.

as a reader though, i can see why so many would want to hold on to decades long continuity. i guess it makes them feel like all those stories "matter" more and there's maybe some level of comfort in dipping back into the same well every month for 30 years.

[boots]

It still brings tears to my eyes every time I read it

still one of my all times

[Vegeta]

I dunno, As long as you ignore the clone saga and body swapping shenanigans of Superior Spider-Man I don't think his history is all that complicated.

If they DID do a hard reboot though, then they better hard reboot the entire Marvel Universe, not just Spider-Man. He's too connected to the other superhero characters to reset and not have any effect on their previous adventures together.

*Internal screaming*

Dude, it's just comics, you need to chill or quit reading.

[blackspidey2099]

I don't see a downside. How many stories outside of Superior can you objectively say were remotely memorable from this era?

Let's see:

New Ways To Die, American Son, Shed, Grim Hunt, Big Time, No One Dies, Spider-Island, maybe Ends of the Earth, Dying Wish (though I guess that counts as Superior), Spider-Verse, Worldwide. And that's only in the main ASM. Outside of that, there's been stuff like Flash Thompson Venom, Scarlet Spider Kaine, Spider-Man 2099, Spider-Gwen, etc. that have all been awesome as well.