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    Quote Originally Posted by ed2962 View Post
    I'm a little surprised no one has mentioned the Marilyn Manson/Evan Rachel Wood allegations here yet.

    What's interesting is that for awhile in the comments of articles regarding similar allegations against stars, you'd see tons of people going, "MeToo is out of control!" This time it's, "Who's surprised by this? Not me!"
    I'm not going to be surprised at stuff like this coming out about ANYONE whose girlfriends stay the same age no matter how old they get themselves. I think it's more just a matter of time for most of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ed2962 View Post
    I'm a little surprised no one has mentioned the Marilyn Manson/Evan Rachel Wood allegations here yet.

    What's interesting is that for awhile in the comments of articles regarding similar allegations against stars, you'd see tons of people going, "MeToo is out of control!" This time it's, "Who's surprised by this? Not me!"
    Eh. I think with Manson, a lot of it is vindication. Manson had “haters” from the “anti-Satanism” crowd ever since he became popular; I remember when I was barely a teenager (mid-90’s) my mom finding out I was listening to one of Manson’s songs and she freeeeeeaaaaaaked out on me. In a twisted way, I feel like some people are happy they were eventually proven right, which is just a sick side-effect of being human.

    I think people are slowly acclimating to the idea that the “squeaky wheel needs the grease” so to speak, and that just because some man proudly claims “I am feminist, hear me roar” doesn’t mean he’s quite that friendly.
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    But do those uber-religious people actually care about protecting women from sexual abuse?

    Or is it just another Satanic panic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SUPERECWFAN1 View Post
    The Woody Allen deal was always creepy as hell honestly. I know his one adult son has sided with him saying Mia has fed one sister a lot of things in her mind. But it is still creepy as hell once you sit and think about that situation. It shocks me that he still kept working after it. He's made like 28-29 films after it since.
    This.

    No matter how you want to analyze the situation, the Woody Allen thing is f...ed up as hell.

    I mean, getting married to your wife's adopted daughter? Even discounting the sexual assault alleagations, there's no way to ignore how problematic this is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Username taken View Post
    This.

    No matter how you want to analyze the situation, the Woody Allen thing is f...ed up as hell.

    I mean, getting married to your wife's adopted daughter? Even discounting the sexual assault alleagations, there's no way to ignore how problematic this is.
    What, just because he would be exploiting his parental authority with his new wife?

    Damn, dude, you are a prude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Cool Thatguy View Post
    What, just because he would be exploiting his parental authority with his new wife?

    Damn, dude, you are a prude.
    Because he married her right after she turned 18, right? I don't see how negatively reacting to that is prudish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gray Lensman View Post
    I'm not going to be surprised at stuff like this coming out about ANYONE whose girlfriends stay the same age no matter how old they get themselves. I think it's more just a matter of time for most of them.
    There's James Woods, no one's made any revelations about him recently. But I think it's cause people were giving him the side eye 20 yrs ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bunch of Coconuts View Post
    Eh. I think with Manson, a lot of it is vindication. Manson had “haters” from the “anti-Satanism” crowd ever since he became popular; I remember when I was barely a teenager (mid-90’s) my mom finding out I was listening to one of Manson’s songs and she freeeeeeaaaaaaked out on me. In a twisted way, I feel like some people are happy they were eventually proven right, which is just a sick side-effect of being human.

    I think people are slowly acclimating to the idea that the “squeaky wheel needs the grease” so to speak, and that just because some man proudly claims “I am feminist, hear me roar” doesn’t mean he’s quite that friendly.
    I think you're right. A lot of people are like, "He's a big weirdo! What do you expect?!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by ed2962 View Post
    There's James Woods, no one's made any revelations about him recently. But I think it's cause people were giving him the side eye 20 yrs ago.
    Didn't Willa Holland come out with accusations that he assaulted/harassed her on the set of a movie?

    Although I guess it might not be "recent."

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    T.I and his wife have 11 women claiming sexual assault against them. He's not gonna be in Antman 3 but apparently they didn't plan on bringing the character back before all this drama. He was funny but Luis the only sidekick that matters imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midvillian1322 View Post
    T.I and his wife have 11 women claiming sexual assault against them. He's not gonna be in Antman 3 but apparently they didn't plan on bringing the character back before all this drama. He was funny but Luis the only sidekick that matters imo.
    Maybe they weren't going to bring him back earlier due to his inappropriate comments about women. Can't say I'll miss this guy, especially after finding out what kind of guy he really is.

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    Doctor Who’s Noel Clarke Faces New Harassment Allegations From Sci-Fi Set

    https://io9.gizmodo.com/doctor-who-s...tio-1846846988

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mik View Post
    I hope this is the beginning of the end of people in Hollywood, and all industries in general, getting away with sexual crimes just because they're powerful.

    I read an article (can't remember where, but it might have been the Guardian) a while back about how the myth of the auteur, the one-man control of the filmmaking process, allows them to get away with this kind of stuff. I semi-agreed with it because, while several auteurs are known to be good to work with, I do think giving too much power to one person in what's really a collaborative process could be problematic.
    I wish this were true, but it's really really not gone away. The Old Vic had an 'independent investigation' and found NO ONE in the Old Vic knew what Kevin Spacey was doing. And now the BBC has announced how 'shocked' they are to learn about Noel Clarke, and no-one knew a thing. And the reason I say it's not gone away is NOT that the powerful are still keeping tight lipped... it's that the stars who know it's bullsh*t (RE: nearly all of them) don't call out these false 'shocked to learn' statements. It's all about keeping secrets and not rockin' the boat. I assume the same is true in most other industries too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kieran_Frost View Post
    I wish this were true, but it's really really not gone away. The Old Vic had an 'independent investigation' and found NO ONE in the Old Vic knew what Kevin Spacey was doing. And now the BBC has announced how 'shocked' they are to learn about Noel Clarke, and no-one knew a thing. And the reason I say it's not gone away is NOT that the powerful are still keeping tight lipped... it's that the stars who know it's bullsh*t (RE: nearly all of them) don't call out these false 'shocked to learn' statements. It's all about keeping secrets and not rockin' the boat. I assume the same is true in most other industries too.
    While I don't want to accuse anyone of anything, but it's hard for me to believe no one knows any of these things at all.

    Maybe more people will stop behaving like this but unless there are consquences, I wouldn't bet on it

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    12 days ago, Josh Duggar was arrested not for molesting his sisters when he was 14, but for possessing child pornography.

    The Duggar family released a pubic statement that almost sounds like they are still in denial over this man's crimes.

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