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    The big 5 of xmen are cyclops, jean grey, rogue , storm and wolverine so they should be on the top twelve definitely.

    I cannot put Archangel unfortunately becuase he hasnt been in the main xbooks the longest. Colossus and Kurt are featured more than him in movies and games and have usually been on the main xbooks.

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    If Op sticks with Magneto and Professor x, then mystique should be there too. Deadpool is an xmen character but he has his own thing so no Deadpool.

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    My reasoning for who I chose “so far”:

    Wolverine, Storm, Cyclops. Kind of like the X-Men trinity. Leaders, mentors, steadfast membership and have driven the tone and tempo of the X-Men for years. Present in nearly every representation of the X-Men in media outside of comics.

    Colossus, Nightcrawler, Kitty Pryde. At this point, more original than the original 5. Represented as X-Men in film consistently, if not the 90’s cartoon. Kitty, I agree, is a controversial choice but the X-Men have nearly always had an ingenue... and Kitty figures prominently in the most significant X-epics; God Loves & DOFP. While a lot of X-Men stories are monsters-of-the-week, or angst driven, Kitty tends to show up when important things need to be said.

    Magneto, Professor X, Phoenix. The idea people. The first two represent a difference in philosophy that’s driven the book for years. Phoenix is a wound that can’t heal... despite serving as an example of the near-limitless creative and destructive potential of a mature and capable mutant. It’s not really about villains, but how important these three are to the storytelling of X-Men principles.

    The last three I struggle with. Iceman and Beast both feel like they straddle X-Men with the greater Marvel universe, and now Rogue is similarly so with her involvement with Unvanny Avengers. But her presence in the 90’s as well as Anna Paquin, AND her significance to being a reformed supercriminal has her in the bottom row. I just don’t know who else. I thought Gambit and Psylovke, but both of these characters strike me as surface level cool. Deadpool is irreverent and somewhat irrelevant. I thought Mystique, but then who’s #12.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RLAAMJR. View Post
    If Op sticks with Magneto and Professor x, then mystique should be there too. Deadpool is an xmen character but he has his own thing so no Deadpool.
    Mystique? Why? Because of her retconned importance? Or Jennifer Lawrence?
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    Quote Originally Posted by donpricetag View Post
    Mystique? Why? Because of her retconned importance? Or Jennifer Lawrence?
    He used Magneto. That's why he also should use Mystique and maybe even Deadpool (because Magneto = X character not X-man).
    that's opinion of Kinberg - the guy who creates x-men movies

    CRaymond :
    looking at Your list (x characters not x-men)
    Rogue, Gambit, Mystique or Deadpool instead of gambit

    and Rogue should be higher

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xelossik View Post
    He used Magneto. That's why he also should use Mystique and maybe even Deadpool (because Magneto = X character not X-man).
    that's opinion of Kinberg - the guy who creates x-men movies

    CRaymond :
    looking at Your list (x characters not x-men)
    Rogue, Gambit, Mystique or Deadpool instead of gambit

    and Rogue should be higher
    Magneto has been on the X-Men flagship for years now, Mystique has not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RLAAMJR. View Post
    Rogue should be in row 3 instead of Kitty

    Then row 4 will be Psylocke, Kitty and Gambit.


    I think Magneto should not be there. He's more known as a villain, not a hero. So if in case you will remove him, add X23.
    In the movies, he's meant more than Storm though and they always have him being an Anti hero by the end. The animated shows too.

    Rogue is in the top 5


    Storm, Cyclops. Wolverine, Rogue, Jean, Beast. And Magneto has been much more significant in X men stories as a x man than Jean or Beast this decade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DurararaFTW View Post
    Magneto has been on the X-Men flagship for years now, Mystique has not.
    He is a star of franchise but he is not X-man, Kinberg thinks that way. Producer and writer of these movies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xelossik View Post
    He is a star of franchise but he is not X-man, Kinberg thinks that way. Producer and writer of these movies.
    This is a forum for the COMICS.
    Last time Magneto wasn’t a main character in an ongoing team book was the start of Fraction’s run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CRaymond View Post
    Working on a poster, and I have room for 12 iconic mutant heroes.

    row1: Cyclops, Wolverine, Storm
    row2: Professor X, Phoenix, Magneto
    row3: Colossus, Nightcrawler, Kitty Pryde

    Who are the last three?

    Beast? Iceman? Rogue? Gambit?
    Rogue is def on there and I would argue Emma too and probably Beast
    Emma is the opposite of a devourer
    She's A Lifebringer

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    Quote Originally Posted by DurararaFTW View Post
    Magneto has been on the X-Men flagship for years now, Mystique has not.
    You are right with that but he is a villain in video games and movies.

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    The trinity: Cyclops, Storm, Wolverine

    The themes: Xavier, Magneto, Phoenix

    The time periods: Kitty (80's); Rogue (90's); Emma (00s)

    Scene stealers: Iceman, Beast, Nightcrawler

    Shout outs to: Colossus, Psylocke, Jubilee, Gambit, Mystique

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    Quote Originally Posted by RLAAMJR. View Post
    You are right with that but he is a villain in video games and movies.
    No, he's not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xelossik View Post
    He is a star of franchise but he is not X-man, Kinberg thinks that way. Producer and writer of these movies.
    "these" aren't movies. These are comics with movie, cartoon and videogame adaptations. That they get poorly adapted shouldn't denounce any character's X-Men status nor elevate anyone else's.
    Last edited by DurararaFTW; 11-12-2017 at 11:45 AM.

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    Comics movies cartoons, everything.

    I want top 12 brand essential x-men.

    At this point I’m thinking Rogue, Mystique, Emma Frost.

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