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    Wow this was terrible. What an absolute stinker.

    Literally 80% of the plot threads built in the first five prove to just be padding to fill out the runtime, with no impact or payoff of any kind.

    This was three episodes of material padded out to six so Chibnall could fleece the BBC out of more money.

    Still, the Sontaran episode and the Weeping Angel episode at least let me say I like three Jodie Whittaker episodes (along with Kerblam! from her first series). Not going to miss a single thing about this crew once they are out the door.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisIII View Post
    The New Year's special is another Jodie vs Daleks story, Eve of the Daleks. Apparentally they're stuck in a time loop with Daleks, including one that has a Gattling sort of Exterminator gun.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jB2F7Oc5T_s
    Aisling Bea and Daleks? Finally something I might be interested in this season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirby101 View Post
    Okay, so The Doctor stops the Sontari, the Flux and the Ravegers. A little too neatly IMHO.
    Since I have been sleep walking through a lot of this, or is that sleep watching? I am not sure of a few things. What is the deal with the watch?
    The personification of Time, what the hell is that?
    We're the Weeping Angels just a McDuffie to get the 3 companions to the past?
    And unless the series ends with Jodie, we know The Doctor doesn't die for good with know regeneration.
    There's actually a similar entity in The new Adventures novels. The Seventh Doctor in particular is known as "Time's champion".

    Also it's kind of funny that yet again the Daleks are dead but that's almost a running joke in that they always come back from near extinction.
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    So although not officially confirmed looks like the Master might be back for Jodie's finale.

    I think that makes yet another regeneration he's at least partially responsible for.

    The Fourth-Caused the railing to turn around so the Doctor would fall.

    Seventh-Caused the TARDIS to land in 1999 San Francisco where he was shot.

    Tenth-left the radioactive parts of the Gate running so the Doctor had to be exposed to the radiation to save Wilf.

    Twelfth-Triggered the series of events that caused the Doctor to be shot by Cybermen multiple times. Also Missy showing up might've helped with the last few.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisIII View Post
    So although not officially confirmed looks like the Master might be back for Jodie's finale.

    I think that makes yet another regeneration he's at least partially responsible for.

    The Fourth-Caused the railing to turn around so the Doctor would fall.

    Seventh-Caused the TARDIS to land in 1999 San Francisco where he was shot.

    Tenth-left the radioactive parts of the Gate running so the Doctor had to be exposed to the radiation to save Wilf.

    Twelfth-Triggered the series of events that caused the Doctor to be shot by Cybermen multiple times. Also Missy showing up might've helped with the last few.
    In Day of the Master, Missy said Death was the most personal thing you could do to someone.

    So it fits their dynamic to be the central cause of each other's regenerations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisIII View Post
    The New Year's special is another Jodie vs Daleks story, Eve of the Daleks. Apparentally they're stuck in a time loop with Daleks, including one that has a Gattling sort of Exterminator gun.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jB2F7Oc5T_s
    I saw it; looks like a Groundhog Day type story, which doesn’t interest me. The master might make it more palatable.

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    The TARDIS being weird wasn't really resolved so I'm guessing it'll carry on to the specials, and maybe have something to do with the Time loop.

    I'm guessing that, apart from the Daleks, that this special might be a bit more low-key since we just had this big story. Maybe a bit like Last Christmas or the first two Smith specials.
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    I have a sneaky feeling that the Daleks aren't responsible for the loop, and there'll be another reason for it, possibly to do with one of the supporting character's apparent reason for going to the same depot to check on something every New Year's Eve. Or as Chris says something wrong with the TARDIS.

    Since Flux never bothered to explain if the universe is back to normal or not after the effects of the Flux I wonder if that recovery will be a big part of the final three specials. I doubt RTD wants to put up with an entirely destroyed universe post 2021.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derek Metaltron View Post
    I have a sneaky feeling that the Daleks aren't responsible for the loop, and there'll be another reason for it, possibly to do with one of the supporting character's apparent reason for going to the same depot to check on something every New Year's Eve. Or as Chris says something wrong with the TARDIS.

    Since Flux never bothered to explain if the universe is back to normal or not after the effects of the Flux I wonder if that recovery will be a big part of the final three specials. I doubt RTD wants to put up with an entirely destroyed universe post 2021.
    I'd really rather not have any more time spent on the flux, just move on and tell self contained stories for the specials with maybe a single line about, "The Universe was pretty messed up...but then it got better"

    The less said the better.
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    There didn't seem to be any major consequences when the Master did a similar thing (although mostly unintentionally) in LOGOPOLIS, apart from the planet itself and Traaken.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LC27g_BsbxA

    Although the Entropy field does seem to cast a shadow over a big chunk of the universe(Whoniverse?) in the clip.
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    It is ironic that kid Chibnall gave the Colin Baker crew such a hard time back in the day and now many fans think he is the worst Who writer of all time. It is true what they say, sometimes you become what you hate.

    "So you've come to the end now alive but dead inside."

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    Didn't seem there was much to the Williamson subplot. The time portals didn't really seem to be explained except as a reason for Williamson's building in the first place, and it seemed like it was mainly WHO doing it's at least have one "historical celebrity per season" thing.
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    https://www.denofgeek.com/tv/doctor-...red-questions/

    Let's see how many of these get resolved by the time Whitaker leaves. .

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    Here's some fun insight into 12's look by Capaldi.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the illustrious mr. kenway View Post
    https://www.denofgeek.com/tv/doctor-...red-questions/

    Let's see how many of these get resolved by the time Whitaker leaves. .

    https://www-cinemablend-com.cdn.ampp...twelfth-doctor

    Here's some fun insight into 12's look by Capaldi.
    The whole thing that bugs me about the doctor hiding the fob watch, is that while she feels it might be better not to face whatever she might have done during her time with the division, there’s also the question of where she comes from and whether or not she can find it again, or is it forever out of her reach. But then again, she’s lived the life of the time traveler for hundreds of not thousands of years, and she may feel it doesn’t really matter any more. Well, if she doesn’t care, why should we?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisIII View Post
    There didn't seem to be any major consequences when the Master did a similar thing (although mostly unintentionally) in LOGOPOLIS, apart from the planet itself and Traaken.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LC27g_BsbxA

    Although the Entropy field does seem to cast a shadow over a big chunk of the universe(Whoniverse?) in the clip.
    The Master thought he could harness the entropy by assuming control of the CVE's. Effectively weaponising it. The entropy wave, depending on the stories you choose to follow, wiped out numerous worlds in the Traken Union. Hundreds or billions of lives wiped out. There were no consequences because they transmitted the recursive program and opened the CVE's again.
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