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    Yeah, Time Lords seem to sort of have a kind of telepathy, it's never really been that fleshed out that much. They also kind mind meld to a degree with humans, and the Master often hypnotized a lot of people (Including into making him PM), although it's unclear if it's his time lord abilities or just something he picked up. Sometimes the Doctor can sense the Master, sometimes he's right in front of him and the Doctor can't see it (Melkur, Missy, O, and Yana, although the last one has an explanation). The Doctor can ocassionally put himself into trances and doesn't often get posessed, unless he's dealing with something really, really powerful (Sutekh, whose species rivaled the Time Lords in terms of power)
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    Okay, so, moving on to Doctor Who things that I know first hand, granted that the Doctor has scifi powers, if it had been revealed that he was a time traveler, couldn't he just erase that from peoples' memories?

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    He did that with Donna, but only because her brain was getting overloaded because she basically absorbed part of his mind. He's managed to erase or block his own memory a few times though...

    The Doctor isn't exactly worried about people finding out that he's a time traveler, at least not since the beginning, nor is he really that concerned about anachronisms or altering things unless they're "fixed points"-meaning changing them could have drastic consequences (Aztecs, Pompeii are two good examples in the series; Water of Mars and the season 6 arc also go into detail on this). He doesn't follow the same rulebook that Doc Brown or various Star Treks tend to do.


    The Doctor was very secretive and cautious at first but he's lightened up since then.
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    My knowledge so far is limited to just the first two episodes, but it seems like the Doctor likes to keep things close to his chest and decides to be manipulative because it allows him to accomplish his goals more easily. It makes sense that he would not approve of his other selves because they all end up being so different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRay View Post
    My knowledge so far is limited to just the first two episodes, but it seems like the Doctor likes to keep things close to his chest and decides to be manipulative because it allows him to accomplish his goals more easily. It makes sense that he would not approve of his other selves because they all end up being so different.
    The Seventh Doctor is more conniving and manipulative than just about any of them

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    I have heard that 7 is much different for some reason, but I'm still a long way from meeting him, probably.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRay View Post
    I'm also seeing that there are some stories that are "arguably" Multi-Doctor events, the one I'm seeing brought up most often is "Trial of a Time Lord".
    Trial Of a Time Lord is a large story, but it's only centred on the Sixth Doctor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Somecrazyaussie View Post
    Trial Of a Time Lord is a large story, but it's only centred on the Sixth Doctor.
    The argument probably comes from if the person considers the Valeyard an incarnation of the Doctor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRay View Post
    I have heard that 7 is much different for some reason, but I'm still a long way from meeting him, probably.
    Seven is written more as a God with an even more mysterious background than all of the previous classic Doctors have ever let on. It's not all that apparent in his first series (largely considered one of the weakest in the original run), but in his next two series it's more more explicit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Rat View Post
    Seven is written more as a God with an even more mysterious background than all of the previous classic Doctors have ever let on. It's not all that apparent in his first series (largely considered one of the weakest in the original run), but in his next two series it's more more explicit.
    Probably because JNT approved the scripts himself for that season (why the whole thing stinks of panto). 25 and 26 were all Cartmel. Cartmel just altered them slightly.

    Plus 24 was being prepared for Colin. Then he was sacked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Somecrazyaussie View Post
    Trial Of a Time Lord is a large story, but it's only centred on the Sixth Doctor.
    How do you mean “large”? It spans multiple Doctors?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRay View Post
    How do you mean “large”? It spans multiple Doctors?
    "large" = the entire season is the story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRay View Post
    How do you mean “large”? It spans multiple Doctors?
    It's a precursor to the season arc the revival uses.

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    It's basically a trial in which in-between the trial segments they "watch" three of the Doctor's adventures that are used as evidence against him. Although the entire serial is named "Trial of a Time Lord" the segments have been labeled differently in other sources.

    1-4: "The Mysterious Planet": The Doctor and Peri find themselves on a planet that appears to be a post-apocalyptic Earth despite being in the wrong place.
    5-8: "Mindwarp"- A sequel of sorts to "Vengeance on Varos". The Doctor is brainwashed into siding with Sil during an attempt to transport his leader into a new body.
    9-12: "Terror of The Vervoids"-Set in the Doctor's future, the Doctor encounters a new species of genetically-engineered plant monsters onboard a spaceship.
    13-14: "The Ultimate Foe"-With the help of the Master, the Doctor discovers the true reason behind his trial and the nature of the Valeyard.

    There is also an earlier season long arc season 16, the Key To Time, which had the Doctor, K-9 and Romana, a Time Lady, seek out segments of a powerful object that are hidden across space and time. It has a three serial sequel, The Black Guardian Trilogy, in the middle of the Davison era.

    There are also loose trilogies of stories here and there. E-Space during Tom's final season in which the Doctor, Romana, and K-9 get stuck in another universe, followed immediately by Keeper Of Traaken/Logopolis/Castrovalva deal with the re-emergence of the Master and the Fourth Doctor's regeneration, and the Black Guardian Trilogy during Peter's season which is a sequel to the Key To Time.. Also pretty much every Davros story in the original series is connected even going through multiple Doctors, and also includes a Dalek civil war.



    The new series sort of uses arcs in a slightly similar way but it's mainly repeated phrases or visual clues culminating with a big reveal in the finales.

    Season one-"Bad Wolf"
    Season Two-"Torchwood"
    Season Three-"Saxon"
    Season 4-"She is returning/There's something on your back"
    Specials-"HE will knock four times"
    Season 5-"The Pandorica Opens"
    Season 6-"Silence will fall"
    Season 7-"Run, you clever boy, and remember".
    Season 8-"Missy"
    Season 9-Confession dial
    Season 10-The vault
    Season 11/12-Timeless Child
    Season 13-Flux
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    Also one thing to note about classic WHO is that pretty much every story is a serial of usually 4-6 parts, mostly with the same title although the earlier B & W episodes tend to have individual titles even in a single story(Hence why there's some disagreements on what their proper names are sometimes). Each serial "episode" is usually 25 minutes each, although the Colin Baker era tried longer episodes for his first season. Since the current series, they've usually been sticking to the 45 minute stories, with occasional two-three parters (Capaldi's second season for example was pretty much almost all two-parters).
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