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    Default Anyone else fatigued by Metal?

    Outside of the main line of Metal, I'm so sick of it. It's too much. And also, let's be honest. This is practically the same storyline from Johns Forever Evil but instead of the Crime Syndicate its a Batman-centric Crime Syndicate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krypto's Fleas View Post
    Outside of the main line of Metal, I'm so sick of it. It's too much. And also, let's be honest. This is practically the same storyline from Johns Forever Evil but instead of the Crime Syndicate its a Batman-centric Crime Syndicate.
    No wonder it's bad, DC has let Scott Snyder write it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jb681131 View Post
    No wonder it's bad, DC has let Scott Snyder write it.
    Come on. Snyder is a good writer. Unfortunately, his unhealthy obsession with Batman has mutated his perception of the rest of the DC Universe to the point where the entire multiverse now revolves around Batman. DC should have forced him onto another title after Batman #60. He can never be allowed to write Justice League, though. He turned every team encounter into a more over the top version of Tower of Babel (see "Endgame," "Metal #2 &#3).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krypto's Fleas View Post
    Outside of the main line of Metal, I'm so sick of it. It's too much. And also, let's be honest. This is practically the same storyline from Johns Forever Evil but instead of the Crime Syndicate its a Batman-centric Crime Syndicate.
    Well I disagree for the simple reason that this event is doing more with side characters not named Batman than Forever Evil ever did.
    They've fleshed out the Dark Knights and presented them as threats while the CSA remain empty shells and were fodderized so that Johns could feed them to his favorites.
    The tie inns are important to the story, each is a piece added to the larger puzzle which makes characters appearing in said tie inns important.
    In contrast Johns did nothing with Rogues Rebellion, Arkham War and ARGUS.
    The event is moving at a good pace while Forever Evil was barely crawling around from issue 2-6.
    Its far more tightly plotted as well, Snyder is continuing and wrapping threads from his run, Grant Morrison's Batman run, Johns Hawkman, various other DC stories. FE abandoned the Grayson/Owlman plot that kick started the event. So FE worked with far less and still couldn't make use of its concepts in a proper fashion.

    I can go on but Metal completely wipes the floor with Forever Evil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barbatos666 View Post
    Well I disagree for the simple reason that this event is doing more with side characters not named Batman than Forever Evil ever did.
    They've fleshed out the Dark Knights and presented them as threats while the CSA remain empty shells and were fodderized so that Johns could feed them to his favorites.
    The tie inns are important to the story, each is a piece added to the larger puzzle which makes characters appearing in said tie inns important.
    In contrast Johns did nothing with Rogues Rebellion, Arkham War and ARGUS.
    The event is moving at a good pace while Forever Evil was barely crawling around from issue 2-6.
    Its far more tightly plotted as well, Snyder is continuing and wrapping threads from his run, Grant Morrison's Batman run, Johns Hawkman, various other DC stories. FE abandoned the Grayson/Owlman plot that kick started the event. So FE worked with far less and still couldn't make use of its concepts in a proper fashion.

    I can go on but Metal completely wipes the floor with Forever Evil.
    Lol. Says the guy that has a handle named after the story!

    Jokes aside, I don't dispute your points regarding Forever Evil vs. Metal. I just think that even if Metal is better executed (and that is debatable), it still steals the basic plot, which I don't admire at all.

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    LOL

    I dont see stealing tbh, Metal is about an invasion of perverted version of Batmen from a multiverse built by nightmares. CSA are a generic group of evil JLA from a generic evil universe where left is right.

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    I'm finding Metal a lot better than Forever Evil. Yes, this is a multiversal level exploration of Batman's dark sides, but it's really fun and more coherent.
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    Just adding to the choir. FE was okay but Metal has been freakin' awesome. Honestly? Can't believe it's over halfway done already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barbatos666 View Post
    LOL

    I dont see stealing tbh, Metal is about an invasion of perverted version of Batmen from a multiverse built by nightmares. CSA are a generic group of evil JLA from a generic evil universe where left is right.
    Yep, nailed it. I'll reread FE after this, but I didn't like that the Nightwing/Owlman subplot got dropped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krypto's Fleas View Post
    Outside of the main line of Metal, I'm so sick of it. It's too much. And also, let's be honest. This is practically the same storyline from Johns Forever Evil but instead of the Crime Syndicate its a Batman-centric Crime Syndicate.
    Forever Evil did it much better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krypto's Fleas View Post
    Outside of the main line of Metal, I'm so sick of it. It's too much. And also, let's be honest. This is practically the same storyline from Johns Forever Evil but instead of the Crime Syndicate its a Batman-centric Crime Syndicate.
    Looks like you got fatigued at a good time, since there is only more tie in and it doesn't come out till February.

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    The only thing I've purchased was the Red Death issue as it related to the Flash.
    I haven't bought an issue, and don't think I'm missing much in the overall scheme of things.
    Although I'm not that interested in it either, I think Doomsday Clock will have more relevance to the DCU.
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