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    Quote Originally Posted by numberthirty View Post
    We talking "The Bleed" as in Wildstorm?
    No. Just bleeding information or solids from Watchmen U to DCU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by numberthirty View Post
    The take in a few places is as follows...

    "The Current DCU Is The Aftermath Of Dr. Manhattan Mucking Up The Works During Watchmen"
    I am unaware of that statement. Is it in the comics or has someone from DC management said this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KurtW95 View Post
    I also would love to see the DCU’s reality change to bring back both of the Kents. I always liked the dynamic of having them around. Superman is a bright character. He doesn’t need to be plagued by the loss of two sets of parents. (Yeah yeah, I know Oz is supposed to be Joe-El, but I hope that ends up being a sham.) And some of the best versions of Superman had both of them alive, so it’s far from a rare thing.
    I love everything that you say. Maybe the Kents being alive was not there in the original books but i don't care. They were part of some wonderful stories when they were around. I definitely want them back. If nothing just allow them to meet their daughter-in-law and their grandson. They are old. They would die anyway. Why not allow them to meet Lois and Jon? Allow them to die say eight years into Superman's career. If they are alive i love it. Superman who is not 'bright' as you mention just feels a bit off to me.

    If nothing from a storyteller's perspective they are another tool in the toolbox.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jody Garland View Post
    i think the poster means in terms of material, characters, etc., showing up in the main DCU. There's been a lot of hubbub about Dr. Manhattan being behind stuff, but it's all been set up so far.
    Yep.

    Whether that is a misdirection or not, I can't see it not being interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackolover View Post
    I am unaware of that statement. Is it in the comics or has someone from DC management sad this?
    Edited the post you quoted.

    While they aren't out and out saying it is the case, it seems like a possibility based on what Adrian says.*


    *This assumes Adrian is still a reliable narrator.

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    Quote Originally Posted by batfan08 View Post

    In regards to the new Rorschach, I’m going to suggest that he’s the Roger Jackson referenced in the news article at the back of the book, who was imprisoned for murdering Seymour David, the New Frontiersman writer who found Rorschach’s journal.
    Possibly that Pirate-Comic Kid? On his way to become the next Robin?

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    I don't think the super powered characters of DC apart from superman are going to get involved as it would put the WM characters severely at a disadvantage given their lack of powers. I wonder if luthor (who may have turjed into a herl again after imperius lex) and Adrianne will team up to take down the respective supermen of their universes who they each have tried to get rid of so they wont interfere in their plans and who coincidentally have each caused them some malady if you consider the silver age luthor who blamed his baldness on Clark and then the PC one later on got cancer due to prolonged exposure due to wearing the kryptonite ring just as Adrianne's cancer seems to be caused by Manhattan in poetic revenge. It also seems that roscharche and Batman will be teaming up soon to find "god" though why Bruce thinks working with such a unstable character is a good idea will require a good deal of explanation. I wonder if manhattan is ultimately going to try to separate Superman's intrinsic field and turn him into another "god" or true Superman to see whether he could create another being like himself in true exploration of the omnipotence paradox question and inadvertently hand superman the means to defeat him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by numberthirty View Post
    Edited the post you quoted.

    While they aren't out and out saying it is the case, it seems like a possibility based on what Adrian says.*


    *This assumes Adrian is still a reliable narrator.
    Okay, thanks for clearing that up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by martianarts View Post
    Possibly that Pirate-Comic Kid? On his way to become the next Robin?
    From recollection, he's shown to die in Adrian Veidt's "Alien" creature attack. As is Malcolm Long, one of the other major possibilities (although Long would probably in any case be too old and sedentary to transform himself post trauma into a character who was capable of physically intimidating Veidt).

    The hand looked smooth, though, so I agree that "Rorschach" is probably young.

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    Like it seems a lot of other people, I was surprised that this was good.

    In part, I was surprised, because from the preview it read like a mediocre Rorschach monologue pastiche But, of course, there is a reason for that. "New" Rorschach is a Rorschach pastiche, but the way in which the character is shown to vary from the original (his confusion and occasional uncertainty) accounts for the changes in narrative voice and was well handled.

    I had my doubts and qualms about this, still do really, but I have to say the first issue was better than we had any reason to expect it would be.

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    Geoff Johns shouldn’t try to replicate Moore’s writing. I understand his intention, but he’s far away from accomplishing that feat without coming out as a poor man’s Moore. He’s just such a distinct writer and his work in comics couldn’t be more different. I hope this turns into a story more suitable to Johns’ strengths. The art was great, as usually with Gary Frank
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    Quick question: Does #1 have any kind of ads in it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by new_onslaught View Post
    Quick question: Does #1 have any kind of ads in it?
    Nope Not even in the back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soundsci View Post
    Nope Not even in the back.
    Excellent! Thanks for replying!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chubistian View Post
    Geoff Johns shouldn’t try to replicate Moore’s writing. I understand his intention, but he’s far away from accomplishing that feat without coming out as a poor man’s Moore. He’s just such a distinct writer and his work in comics couldn’t be more different. I hope this turns into a story more suitable to Johns’ strengths. The art was great, as usually with Gary Frank
    I agree, I was initially let down that he seemed to be aping Moore’s style - it felt like playing it kinda safe to not anger fans of the original. However, I do think he did a good job with it and it’s hard to imagine the usual Geoff Johns style working in the Watchmen universe.

    Overall, it was a solid issue but not mind blowing as it was hyped up to be. I hope the next issue adds more ties to the DC universe, since that was sorely lacking in #1. Regardless, I’m glad to see Johns writing again!
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