Readers of Doomsday Clock all SPOILERS thread

[MajorHoy]

That's just the Metaverse correcting itself.

[theoneandonly]

what are its correcting effects?

[mr_crisp]

I don't understand how getting rid of Alan Scott would cause Superman to appear decades later.

[qwertyuiop1998]

I don't understand how getting rid of Alan Scott would cause Superman to appear decades later.

No, It was due to Superman constantly changes of his history made Manhattan want to changing the history so he undo the entire JSA and Legion Of Super-Heroes

And the by product is the New52

[CaptCleghorn]

I can't believe the significance of the story title took so long to sink in.

[j9ac9k]

I don't understand how getting rid of Alan Scott would cause Superman to appear decades later.

It didn't. Manhattan only noticed (the presumably post-Crisis) JSA suddenly have no knowledge of Superman between those two scenes of the first meeting. Removing GL and the JSA didn't change when Superman would appear, but instead ripple-effected him into the Nu52 version. (I think...)

Anyone else find it interesting that Captain Marvel wasn't mentioned? I guess he was in the Fawcett Universe's 40's...? The DCU is centered on Superman I guess.

[kingaliencracker]

I don't understand how getting rid of Alan Scott would cause Superman to appear decades later.

It didn't.

Manhattan is having trouble focusing on the DCU's timeline because of the changes caused by various events in its history. He realizes that Superman is the center of the DCU and that his history is constantly in flux because of the changes to the Metaverse. Manhattan decides to prevent the formation of the JSA to see how this further changes Superman's history.

What I'm curious about, is where did Manhattan "steal" 10 years from the DCU, because I don't believe that's been addressed yet.

[Robotman]

A wizard did it.

[CaptCleghorn]

Anyone else find it interesting that Captain Marvel wasn't mentioned? I guess he was in the Fawcett Universe's 40's...? The DCU is centered on Superman I guess.

Some continuity messes and enough. I think Manhattan would have ended up babbling, drooling, and talking to himself if he tried to get through the Captain Marvel/Shazam! situation.

[Thor-Ul]

It didn't.

Manhattan is having trouble focusing on the DCU's timeline because of the changes caused by various events in its history. He realizes that Superman is the center of the DCU and that his history is constantly in flux because of the changes to the Metaverse. Manhattan decides to prevent the formation of the JSA to see how this further changes Superman's history.

What I'm curious about, is where did Manhattan "steal" 10 years from the DCU, because I don't believe that's been addressed yet.[/QUOTE]


We saw one change but we don't know yet if Manhattan messed more with other events and the ten years lost were a reaction of the metaverse, like an allergic reaction.

Some continuity messes and enough. I think Manhattan would have ended up babbling, drooling, and talking to himself if he tried to get through the Captain Marvel/Shazam! situation.

For a guy trapped in their own immutable reality, the DCU should had been something really like put himself on drugs.


On other hand, the Adjourment frame story it make think if Johns is telling us than all this confrontation between Manhattan and Superman is not being orchestrated by Ozymandias in someway.

[stillanerd]

I have to say, while Doomsday Clock #10 gets very exposition heavy, I rather enjoyed it. Also, as I allude to in this review, there's not even an attempt by Geoff Johns at hiding just how meta this issue got. Especially as it flat-out states that the world literally revolves around Superman, or that Dr. Manhattan can better identify with the more isolated and distant New 52 Superman. Or that Wally West acts as a stand-in for the comic book reader who's resistant to editorial mandated changes.

Doomsday Clock No. 10: The world according to Dr. Manhattan

[Arsenal]

What I'm curious about, is where did Manhattan "steal" 10 years from the DCU, because I don't believe that's been addressed yet.

Maybe it'll be revealed that The main DCU wasn't supposed to "reset" after the events of flashpoint but Dr. M forced one anyway, which lead to everybody "losing" 10 years since everybody's starting point was pushed back so stuff got either condensed or flat out erased.

[MajorHoy]

. . . Or that Wally West acts as a stand-in for the comic book reader who's resistant to editorial mandated changes.

So, are you saying that the Wally West who went all psycho in Heroes in Crisis and killed all the others in Sanctuary was really . . . we the readers?!?

[HandofPrometheus]

Do you guy think we will get an explanation on Dr.Manhattan bringing back Jor-El? Was it even him?

[JonaX]

Do you guy think we will get an explanation on Dr.Manhattan bringing back Jor-El? Was it even him?

The blurb from issue 11 does say the truth behind Rebirth is revealed so I'm guessing Manhattan tried to counteract the Metaverse fighting back against his changes by meddling in other events such as saving Jor-El and turning him into Mr Oz, killing Pandora and also saving the Comedian and bringing him to the DC Universe, I hope they explain how the Button ended up in the Batcave.