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    Default If (or perhaps when) disney get back the x-men and ff rights...

    How do they insert them into the MCU?

    I can see them immediately launching the FF but shoehorning in the entire X-men will be extremely difficult given the nature of the characters and their sheer number.

    How do you guys envisage them coming back?

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    I'm one of the few who doesn't want the X-Men in the MCU. The main X-Men films have all been bad, sure. But Fox is also becoming far, far more innovative than Marvel Studios. Marvel would never make Deadpool, Logan or New Mutants. R-rated films? Nope, Marvel wants that general audience money. Films that fully embrace other genres and try to fit superheroes into those genres, rather than try to fit the genres around superheroes? Nope, Marvel plays it much safer in terms of keeping at least a certain degree of formula.

    Also, let's be honest, do we really need another 10 movies where Logan is one of the main characters? He'd get top billing in a new X-Men trilogy, he'd get a new solo trilogy, he'd probably get top billing in three more Avengers movies, and he'd be a major supporting character in another couple of solos for other characters. Marvel would push Logan even harder than they've pushed Stark, and with even less shame. Screw that.

    Sure, they'd probably give real respect to characters like Scott and Ororo. But you know what? I find it hard to care about that, when it would mean losing out on something like X-Force.

    Marvel Studios getting the X-Men rights back would mean a bunch of enjoyable but safe X-Men movies, and an end to every single shred of innovation Fox has been doing.

    I could see Fox having New Mutants 2 be a rock opera based on "Steal This Planet!" I cannot imagine Marvel doing that. (Also: Please, Fox, in the name of all that is good and pure in this world, do a New Mutants rock opera based on "Steal This Planet!" The world deserves that.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiamatty View Post
    I'm one of the few who doesn't want the X-Men in the MCU. The main X-Men films have all been bad, sure. But Fox is also becoming far, far more innovative than Marvel Studios.
    Next marvel phase will be probably more innovative.
    Marvel would never make Deadpool, Logan or New Mutants. R-rated films? Nope...
    they can create tv series r rated about them
    they are creating r rated deadpool animation right now...
    Also, let's be honest, do we really need another 10 movies where Logan is one of the main characters?
    It should be: Do we really want first movie wiht x-men as main characters? yes
    I find it hard to care about that, when it would mean losing out on something like X-Force.
    Marvel started doing innovative things with Guardians of the Galaxy.
    Only then Fox created Deadpool(after stopping this movie for many years).
    You will have X force with Marvel

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    They will just reboot them both and ignore all previous movies

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    I hope X Men will be their own universe no matter what.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiamatty View Post
    I'm one of the few who doesn't want the X-Men in the MCU. The main X-Men films have all been bad, sure. But Fox is also becoming far, far more innovative than Marvel Studios. Marvel would never make Deadpool, Logan or New Mutants. R-rated films? Nope, Marvel wants that general audience money. Films that fully embrace other genres and try to fit superheroes into those genres, rather than try to fit the genres around superheroes? Nope, Marvel plays it much safer in terms of keeping at least a certain degree of formula.

    Also, let's be honest, do we really need another 10 movies where Logan is one of the main characters? He'd get top billing in a new X-Men trilogy, he'd get a new solo trilogy, he'd probably get top billing in three more Avengers movies, and he'd be a major supporting character in another couple of solos for other characters. Marvel would push Logan even harder than they've pushed Stark, and with even less shame. Screw that.

    Sure, they'd probably give real respect to characters like Scott and Ororo. But you know what? I find it hard to care about that, when it would mean losing out on something like X-Force.

    Marvel Studios getting the X-Men rights back would mean a bunch of enjoyable but safe X-Men movies, and an end to every single shred of innovation Fox has been doing.

    I could see Fox having New Mutants 2 be a rock opera based on "Steal This Planet!" I cannot imagine Marvel doing that. (Also: Please, Fox, in the name of all that is good and pure in this world, do a New Mutants rock opera based on "Steal This Planet!" The world deserves that.)
    Agree on all points.

    Quote Originally Posted by Xelossik View Post
    Next marvel phase will be probably more innovative.
    They can be more innovative on Thunderbolts or Nova or Ultimates or Sleepwalker.

    Quote Originally Posted by Xelossik View Post
    they can create tv series r rated about them
    they are creating r rated deadpool animation right now...
    Fox is already doing r rated Deadppol.
    I'd rather have Fox keep doing that in their corner, and Marvel doing some other R-rated stuff on their corner (like All New Ghost Rider or White Tiger or American Eagle) on their corner. That makes more choices than just Marvel focusing on r-rated Deadpool and r-rated Logan and r-rated Deadpool&Logan

    Quote Originally Posted by Xelossik View Post
    It should be: Do we really want first movie wiht x-men as main characters? yes
    Only if the main characters are those kids who have been scamed into believing they would be the next X-Men.

    Quote Originally Posted by Xelossik View Post
    You will have X force with Marvel
    When? After another decade of Wolverine and Not New, Not Different X-Men movies?
    I believe a Fox X-Force movie will come sooner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mugiwara View Post
    They can be more innovative on Thunderbolts or Nova or Ultimates or Sleepwalker.
    They can

    Fox is already doing r rated Deadppol.
    I'd rather have Fox keep doing that in their corner, and Marvel doing some other R-rated stuff on their corner (like All New Ghost Rider or White Tiger or American Eagle) on their corner. That makes more choices than just Marvel focusing on r-rated Deadpool and r-rated Logan and r-rated Deadpool&Logan
    fox is doing this only because marvel said :"ok" and this is not 20th century fox

    When? After another decade of Wolverine and Not New, Not Different X-Men movies?
    We never had this

    I believe a Fox X-Force movie will come sooner.
    and it would be probably about magneto

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    Quote Originally Posted by leokearon View Post
    They will just reboot them both and ignore all previous movies
    Yeah, I would imagine FF would be fast tracked to one of the still TBA 2020 slots, and the X-Men films already in production (Deadpool 2, New Mutants, and X-Men Dark Phoenix), would be released but then X-Men would indeed be rebooted. Would be interesting to see if Disney would end up releasing more each year (they'd be able to use the slots Fox had, as well as their studio facilities), or if the X-Men would be forced into hiatus for a couple of years before being inserted into the MCU. I'd imagine an MCU X-Men team would consist of a mix of O5 and ANAD mutants - maybe Cyclops, Jean, Beast, Angel, Iceman, Storm, Wolverine, and Rogue? The rest of the big names would show up in a sequel, it would make sense to bring in Colossus and Magik together.

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    For a long time I didn't want the rights to go back. And if they still don't, I won't be upset. I enjoy the Fox X-Men films. But with the rumors, I've been warming up to accepting the fact that they very well could go back. And if they do, that's okay too.

    My one stipulation: Deadpool (and Gambit) goes with Punisher and Daredevil on whatever streaming service and Team Deadpool stays intact. Because I already know the type of Bugs Bunny Waypool shenanigans Disney would try to pull in a Deadpool film and I won't support that.

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    The Fantastic Four would finally be saved from Fox! This would mean finally a push, for not only the comics but all media outside of that. The FF property really needs this deal to happen for it to survive and thrive.

    Incorporating them would be easy. Just have a wave of energy when Thanos completes the gauntlet, hit the ship they are on and we see it crash back to Earth. One of the ending credits would be Ben's transformed hand bursting out of the crashed shuttle.

    The FF are perfect for Marvel and Disney as Disney loves family stuff. There is no downside for an FF fan.

    The X-Men situation is more complicated.
    Be sure to check out the Invisible Woman appreciation thread!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiamatty View Post
    I'm one of the few who doesn't want the X-Men in the MCU. The main X-Men films have all been bad, sure. But Fox is also becoming far, far more innovative than Marvel Studios. Marvel would never make Deadpool, Logan or New Mutants. R-rated films? Nope, Marvel wants that general audience money. Films that fully embrace other genres and try to fit superheroes into those genres, rather than try to fit the genres around superheroes? Nope, Marvel plays it much safer in terms of keeping at least a certain degree of formula.

    Also, let's be honest, do we really need another 10 movies where Logan is one of the main characters? He'd get top billing in a new X-Men trilogy, he'd get a new solo trilogy, he'd probably get top billing in three more Avengers movies, and he'd be a major supporting character in another couple of solos for other characters. Marvel would push Logan even harder than they've pushed Stark, and with even less shame. Screw that.

    Sure, they'd probably give real respect to characters like Scott and Ororo. But you know what? I find it hard to care about that, when it would mean losing out on something like X-Force.

    Marvel Studios getting the X-Men rights back would mean a bunch of enjoyable but safe X-Men movies, and an end to every single shred of innovation Fox has been doing.

    I could see Fox having New Mutants 2 be a rock opera based on "Steal This Planet!" I cannot imagine Marvel doing that. (Also: Please, Fox, in the name of all that is good and pure in this world, do a New Mutants rock opera based on "Steal This Planet!" The world deserves that.)
    I’m also of the mind that Fox should be allowed to continue making X-Men movies because they’ve proven more good at it than not. Having said that, I wouldn’t mind them launching a true to form, O5 X-Men movie with just Cyclops, Jean, Beast, Angel, and Iceman.

    Fantastic Four should absolutely revert back to Marvel Studios.

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    The thing that worries me if everything is under Disney is that we will not get alot of the smaller stuff like Ant Man, Doctor Strange, or even Guardians anymore. Disney can only make so many movies a year and I am afraid some of the more off the wall choices are going to get lost in the shuffle or never get out of the starting gate at all.

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    alternate dimension or time traveling.

    In both cases they landed on the current MCU time as a mistake and they cant do it again.

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    Question so Disney might be buying fox...

    what are your thoughts on this whole thing? i think this will be a good thing because then we could get more people in iw2, but this can also be bad because that means more stress on the writers and makers of the MCU.

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    The good news is that it would mean that Star Wars would be under one roof (Fox owns ANH for forever).

    The bad news is that the X-Men movie series would probably be rebooted (I'm very badly looking forward to the X-23 movie that's in the works and will probably be canceled if Fox is bought by Disney).
    Doctor Strange: "You are the right person to replace Logan."
    X-23: "I know there are people who disapprove... Guys on the Internet mainly."
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