Batman: Knightfall Omnibus Editions

[masahikotahara]

''DC Comics is adding Robin #0 to the ''Batman: Prodigal'' collection now.''

https://www.bleedingcool.com/2018/11...tman-prodigal/

[millernumber1]

''DC Comics is adding Robin #0 to the ''Batman: Prodigal'' collection now.''

https://www.bleedingcool.com/2018/11...tman-prodigal/

Woohoo!

[JBatmanFan05]

I hate to take credit for this Robin #0 addition, but I asked for it recently (in mid Sept) and DC responded they would look into it.

[millernumber1]

I hate to take credit for this Robin #0 addition, but I asked for it recently (in mid Sept) and DC responded they would look into it.

Way to go!!!

[JBatmanFan05]

Way to go!!!

For years, I've been saying Robin #0 is the real first part of Prodigal and now DC understands. The Knightfall wikipedia was once changed by someone to reflect it, but someone undid that. Maybe it will change again now.

Here is what emailed DC on Sept 13 about Robin #0 (and they responded they were investigating it): "Also, as far as Knightfall, Robin #0 is the unofficial but super clearly first part of Batman Prodigal. Robin #0's ending conversation continues right into Batman #512's opening pages (not to mention Robin #0 also features key set up to Two-Face's Prodigal story and long personal fued with Dick), in not atypical Dixon crossover fashion. Dixon wanted to kickoff Prodigal and end it and that's what he did and that's how it should be collected."

It says "Also" there because I was primarily emailing me about the Morrison Batman Omnibuses (which DC has apparently also listened to me on).

[millernumber1]

For years, I've been saying Robin #0 is the real first part of Prodigal and now DC understands. The Knightfall wikipedia was once changed by someone to reflect it, but someone undid that. Maybe it will change again now.

Here is what emailed DC on Sept 13 about Robin #0 (and they responded they were investigating it): "Also, as far as Knightfall, Robin #0 is the unofficial but super clearly first part of Batman Prodigal. Robin #0's ending conversation continues right into Batman #512's opening pages (not to mention Robin #0 also features key set up to Two-Face's Prodigal story and long personal fued with Dick), in not atypical Dixon crossover fashion. Dixon wanted to kickoff Prodigal and end it and that's what he did and that's how it should be collected."

It says "Also" there because I was primarily emailing me about the Morrison Batman Omnibuses (which DC has apparently also listened to me on).

Cool! I wish DC would listen to fans about continuing to recut and rerelease Rucka's Wonder Woman and the whole Birds of Prey run.

[failo.legendkiller]

All sorts of differences probably, but I don't know the precise orderings DC uses in its Omnibuses. Based on conjecture I read on here, I think the only diff b/w my Vol 1 and DC's is that I include Sword of Azrael and I put the Lost Pages of Bane breaking into the mansion in between two issues as a pseudo canon recap thing (vs DC I think puts it as an extra). I hear DC & I coincidentally wound up with the same ordering for the Prelude issues (well, DC didn't include Sword of Az), which if true, is great for readers.

Prelude order should be this:
Sword of Azrael
Vengeance of Bane
Batman #484-487
Detective Comics #654-656
Batman #488
Detective Comics #657-658
Batman #489-490
Batman #491 (is in all Knightfall tpbs, so don't even count it as prelude anymore)

I probably integrate The Search into The Crusade in Vol 2 in a different way than DC does. I think I found the best way. If DC kept the two separate in the Omnibus, I really think that's silly, but I doubt they did that. But I'm curious to know what order they did use to integrate the two.

My Vol 3 roughly looks like this:
old Knightsend TPB content
Batman #0
Shadow #0
Tec #0
Robin #0 (real part 1 of Prodigal)
the rest is Prodigal
Troika
Azrael #1, Azrael #2 (Az #1 and pages 1-8 of Az #2).....ONE OF MY BEST IDEAS EVER, these pages really provide closure between Bruce & JPV over Azbats and their mutual feelings of guilt
Nightwing Alfred's Return
Veng of Bane 2

Just finished reading again Knightfall following your reading order.
It was great, thank you! Really good job. Needless to say it was an epic event.

[JBatmanFan05]

Just finished reading again Knightfall following your reading order.
It was great, thank you! Really good job. Needless to say it was an epic event.

Well, I don't think I ever put up my order for The Crusade mixed with The Search.

But other than that....cool! Glad you enjoyed the experience. KFall definitely reads better the more correctly and more fully it is read.

[failo.legendkiller]

Well, I don't think I ever put up my order for The Crusade mixed with The Search.

But other than that....cool! Glad you enjoyed the experience. KFall definitely reads better the more correctly and more fully it is read.

Yes, you did at page 1, and I followed that order too.

[JBatmanFan05]

Yes, you did at page 1, and I followed that order too.

Ah yes! I did. Good. I double checked now and that's indeed my order.

[kevink31593]

For years, I've been saying Robin #0 is the real first part of Prodigal and now DC understands. The Knightfall wikipedia was once changed by someone to reflect it, but someone undid that. Maybe it will change again now.

Here is what emailed DC on Sept 13 about Robin #0 (and they responded they were investigating it): "Also, as far as Knightfall, Robin #0 is the unofficial but super clearly first part of Batman Prodigal. Robin #0's ending conversation continues right into Batman #512's opening pages (not to mention Robin #0 also features key set up to Two-Face's Prodigal story and long personal fued with Dick), in not atypical Dixon crossover fashion. Dixon wanted to kickoff Prodigal and end it and that's what he did and that's how it should be collected."

It says "Also" there because I was primarily emailing me about the Morrison Batman Omnibuses (which DC has apparently also listened to me on).

Yep, that was me. And I have added it back in now. Hopefully it sticks this time. I added a note for Robin #0 that states:

Robin #0 is the unofficial first part of Batman: Prodigal. The ending conversation in this issue continues right into Batman #512's opening pages (not to mention Robin #0 also features key set up to Two-Face's Prodigal story and long personal feud with Dick). This issue is included in the new 25th anniversary edition Batman: Prodigal trade paperback, released in 2019.

I borrowed your words from this thread, figured you wouldn't mind. I also added the line about how it was included in the new edition of the Prodigal trade, hopefully that note keeps it from being removed from the reading order again.

[JBatmanFan05]

Yep, that was me. And I have added it back in now. Hopefully it sticks this time. I added a note for Robin #0 that states:

Robin #0 is the unofficial first part of Batman: Prodigal. The ending conversation in this issue continues right into Batman #512's opening pages (not to mention Robin #0 also features key set up to Two-Face's Prodigal story and long personal feud with Dick). This issue is included in the new 25th anniversary edition Batman: Prodigal trade paperback, released in 2019.

I borrowed your words from this thread, figured you wouldn't mind. I also added the line about how it was included in the new edition of the Prodigal trade, hopefully that note keeps it from being removed from the reading order again.

Don't mind in the slightest. Thank you. Very smart to cite the new edition like you did.

I don't know if citing the Bleeding Cool article might be effective:
https://www.bleedingcool.com/2018/11...tman-prodigal/

[kevink31593]

Don't mind in the slightest. Thank you. Very smart to cite the new edition like you did.

I don't know if citing the Bleeding Cool article might be effective:
https://www.bleedingcool.com/2018/11...tman-prodigal/

I've been trying for almost two months now to get Robin #0 to stick to the reading order for Prodigal on Wikipedia. Some guy keeps taking it back off every time I add it. I did insert a link to the Bleeding Cool article. I also inserted a note to explain why the issue is being included. The original note was what I put in my previous comment on this thread. I have re-worked the note in my latest edit. The guy that keeps taking it off is doing so because it wasn't "officially" part of Prodigal. The current note acknowledges that it was officially part of Zero Hour.


Robin #0 (Oct. 1994), officially part of the Zero Hour event, is also a significant lead in to Prodigal. This issue established a previously untold backstory involving Dick Grayson and Two-Face, which is of great importance later in Prodigal. Also, the ending scene in this issue continues right into Batman #512's opening pages. This issue is included in the new 25th anniversary edition Batman: Prodigal trade paperback, released in 2019.