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    Quote Originally Posted by zep81 View Post
    Does volume 2 of the omnibus include everything needed? I have all the individual comics and the 2012 TPB but was thinking about getting the omnibus for convenience.
    It separates Knightquest The Crusade vs The Search when they should be integrated. And biggest problem: printing error, Pages 3 and 4 of Legends of the Dark Knight issue #61 (part of The Search) are printed out of order.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JBatmanFan05 View Post
    It doesn't have Robin #0, which people can debate how needed it is. It separates Knightquest The Crusade vs The Search when they should be integrated. And biggest problem: printing error, Pages 3 and 4 of Legends of the Dark Knight issue #61 (part of The Search) are printed out of order.
    Thanks for that. I have Robin #0 on it's own already so I'm good for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zep81 View Post
    Thanks for that. I have Robin #0 on it's own already so I'm good for that.
    LOL, I don't know why I even brought up Robin #0 when that's only an issue for Vol 3. That's what I get for looking back at previous posts.

    All in all, for Vol 2, I really don't like the separation of The Crusade and The Search, I didn't do that with my custom bind. I loved the integration, it's way more accurate and way more fitting as Robin #7 ends both The Crusade and The Search. And the printing error really irks me (if I had a need to get Vol 2, because I didn't custom bind it, the printing error would keep me from buying it). But The Crusade issues have no error I think, so there's that at least.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JBatmanFan05 View Post
    LOL, I don't know why I even brought up Robin #0 when that's only an issue for Vol 3. That's what I get for looking back at previous posts.

    All in all, for Vol 2, I really don't like the separation of The Crusade and The Search, I didn't do that with my custom bind. I loved the integration, it's way more accurate and way more fitting as Robin #7 ends both The Crusade and The Search. And the printing error really irks me (if I had a need to get Vol 2, because I didn't custom bind it, the printing error would keep me from buying it). But The Crusade issues have no error I think, so there's that at least.
    Do you know if Volume 2 of the omnibus includes Robin #1? Or at least the first 6 pages with Azrael/Robin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zep81 View Post
    Do you know if Volume 2 of the omnibus includes Robin #1? Or at least the first 6 pages with Azrael/Robin.
    Robin 1 and 2 are included (I confirmed it, but don't own the Omnibus). Though including all of #2 is probably questionable if they did that, I don't know. Excerpts are best for these two IMHO. I think looking at pics of I've seen online that all of 1&2 are included, not just excerpts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JBatmanFan05 View Post
    Robin 1 and 2 are included (I confirmed it, but don't own the Omnibus). Though including all of #2 is probably questionable if they did that, I don't know. Excerpts are best for these two IMHO. I think looking at pics of I've seen online that all of 1&2 are included, not just excerpts.
    Thanks for that.

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    Here is what they did with the French version:


    - Batman: Sword of Azrael #1-4
    - Batman #488


    - Batman: Vengeance of Bane #1
    - Countdown #7
    - Bane of the Demon #1-4


    THE FALL
    - Prologue 1 - Batman #489
    - Prologue 2 - Batman #490
    - Prologue 3 - Batman #491
    - Chapter 1 - Batman #492
    - Chapter 2 - Dectective Comics #659
    - Chapter 3 - Batman #493
    - Chapter 4 - Detective Comics #660
    - Chapter 5 - Batman #494
    - Chapter 6 - Detective Comics #661
    - Chapter 7 - Batman #495
    - Chapter 8 - Detectice Comics #662
    - Chapter 9 - Batman #496
    - Chapter 10 - Detective Comics #663
    - Chapter 11 - Batman #497

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    THE CHALLANGE
    - Chapter 12 - Detective Comics #664
    - Chapter 13 - Showcase'93 #7
    - Chapter 14 - Showcase'93 #8
    - Chapter 15 - Batman #498
    - Interlude 1 - Shadow of the Bat #16
    - Interlude 2 - Shadow of the Bat #17
    - Interlude 3 - Shadow of the Bat #18
    - Chapter 16 - Detective Comics #665
    - Chapter 17 - Batman #499
    - Chapter 18 - Detective Comics #666
    - Chapter 19 - Batman #500
    - The Quest: Chapter 1 - Justice League Task Force #5
    - The Quest: Chapter 2 - Justice League Task Force #6


    THE CRUSADE
    - The Crusade: Chapter 1 - Batman #501
    - The Crusade: Chapter 2 - Batman #502
    - The Crusade: Chapter 3 - Shadow of the Bat #19
    - The Crusade: Chapter 4 - Shadow of the Bat #20
    - The Crusade: Chapter 5 - Detective Comics #667
    - The Crusade: Chapter 6 - Detective Comics #668
    - The Crusade: Chapter 7 - Detective Comics #669
    - The Crusade: Chapter 8 - Detective Comics #670
    - The Crusade: Chapter 9 - Catwoman #6
    - The Crusade: Chapter 10 - Batman #503
    - The Crusade: Chapter 11 - Batman #504
    - The Crusade: Chapter 12 - Catwoman #7
    - The Crusade: Chapter 13 - Detective Comics #671
    - The Crusade: Chapter 14 - Detective Comics #672
    - The Crusade: Chapter 15 - Detective Comics #673
    - The Quest: Chapter 3 - Shadow of the Bat #21
    - The Quest: Chapter 4 - Shadow of the Bat #22
    - The Quest: Chapter 5 - Shadow of the Bat #23



    THE QUEST
    - The Crusade: Chapter 16 - Shadow of the Bat #24
    - The Crusade: Chapter 17 - Batman #505
    - The Crusade: Chapter 18 - Shadow of the Bat #25
    - The Crusade: Chapter 19 - Batman #506
    - The Crusade: Chapter 20 - Batman #507
    - The Crusade: Chapter 21 - Shadow of the Bat #26
    - The Crusade: Chapter 22 - Shadow of the Bat #27
    - The Crusade: Chapter 23 - Detective Comics #674
    - The Crusade: Chapter 24 - Batman #508
    - The Crusade: Chapter 25 - Shadow of the Bat #28
    - The Crusade: Chapter 26 - Detective Comics #675
    - The Quest: Chapter 6 - Legends of the Dark Knight #59
    - The Quest: Chapter 7 - Legends of the Dark Knight #60
    - The Quest: Conclusion - Legends of the Dark Knight #61
    - The Crusade: Conclusion - Robin #7

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    THE END
    - The End: Chapter 1 - Batman #509
    - The End: Chapter 2 - Shadow of the Bat #29
    - The End: Chapter 3 - Detective Comics #676
    - The End: Chapter 4 - Legends of the Dark Knight #62
    - The End: Chapter 5 - Robin #8
    - The End: Chapter 6 - Catwoman #12
    - The End: Chapter 7 - Batman #510
    - The End: Chapter 8 - Shadow of the Bat #30
    - The End: Chapter 9 - Detective Comics #677
    - The End: Conclusion - Legends of the Dark Knight #63
    - The End: Epilogue 1 - Robin #9
    - The End: Epilogue 2 - Showcase'94 #10


    PRODIGAL SON
    - Prodigal Son: Prologue - Robin #0
    - Prodigal Son: Chapter 1 - Batman #512
    - Prodigal Son: Chapter 2 - Shadow of the Bat #32
    - Prodigal Son: Chapter 3 - Detective Comics #679
    - Prodigal Son: Chapter 4 - Robin #11
    - Prodigal Son: Chapter 5 - Batman #513
    - Prodigal Son: Chapter 6 - Shadow of the Bat #33
    - Prodigal Son: Chapter 7 - Detective Comics #680
    - Prodigal Son: Chapter 8 - Robin #12
    - Prodigal Son: Chapter 9 - Batman #514
    - Prodigal Son: Chapter 10 - Shadow of the Bat #34
    - Prodigal Son: Chapter 11 - Detective Comics #681
    - Prodigal Son: Chapter 12 - Robin #13
    - Troika: Chapter 1 - Batman #515
    - Troika: Chapter 2 - Shadow of the Bat #35
    - Troika: Chapter 3 - Detective Comics #682
    - Troika: Chapter 4 - Robin #14

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    PRODIGAL SON
    - Prodigal Son: Prologue - Robin #0
    - Prodigal Son: Chapter 1 - Batman #512
    - Prodigal Son: Chapter 2 - Shadow of the Bat #32
    - Prodigal Son: Chapter 3 - Detective Comics #679
    - Prodigal Son: Chapter 4 - Robin #11
    - Prodigal Son: Chapter 5 - Batman #513
    - Prodigal Son: Chapter 6 - Shadow of the Bat #33
    - Prodigal Son: Chapter 7 - Detective Comics #680
    - Prodigal Son: Chapter 8 - Robin #12
    - Prodigal Son: Chapter 9 - Batman #514
    - Prodigal Son: Chapter 10 - Shadow of the Bat #34
    - Prodigal Son: Chapter 11 - Detective Comics #681
    - Prodigal Son: Chapter 12 - Robin #13
    - Troika: Chapter 1 - Batman #515
    - Troika: Chapter 2 - Shadow of the Bat #35
    - Troika: Chapter 3 - Detective Comics #682
    - Troika: Chapter 4 - Robin #14
    OMG. DC actually put Robin #0 in as the first part of Prodigal in this French release?! If this doesn't happen in the US Omnibus Vol 3, now people should be especially super pissed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jb681131 View Post
    THE CHALLANGE
    - Chapter 12 - Detective Comics #664
    - Chapter 13 - Showcase'93 #7
    - Chapter 14 - Showcase'93 #8
    - Chapter 15 - Batman #498
    - Interlude 1 - Shadow of the Bat #16
    - Interlude 2 - Shadow of the Bat #17
    - Interlude 3 - Shadow of the Bat #18
    - Chapter 16 - Detective Comics #665
    - Chapter 17 - Batman #499
    - Chapter 18 - Detective Comics #666
    - Chapter 19 - Batman #500
    - The Quest: Chapter 1 - Justice League Task Force #5 (really The Search)
    - The Quest: Chapter 2 - Justice League Task Force #6

    THE CRUSADE
    - The Crusade: Chapter 1 - Batman #501
    - The Crusade: Chapter 2 - Batman #502
    - The Crusade: Chapter 3 - Shadow of the Bat #19
    - The Crusade: Chapter 4 - Shadow of the Bat #20
    - The Crusade: Chapter 5 - Detective Comics #667
    - The Crusade: Chapter 6 - Detective Comics #668
    - The Crusade: Chapter 7 - Detective Comics #669
    - The Crusade: Chapter 8 - Detective Comics #670
    - The Crusade: Chapter 9 - Catwoman #6
    - The Crusade: Chapter 10 - Batman #503
    - The Crusade: Chapter 11 - Batman #504
    - The Crusade: Chapter 12 - Catwoman #7
    - The Crusade: Chapter 13 - Detective Comics #671
    - The Crusade: Chapter 14 - Detective Comics #672
    - The Crusade: Chapter 15 - Detective Comics #673
    - The Quest: Chapter 3 - Shadow of the Bat #21 (really The Search)
    - The Quest: Chapter 4 - Shadow of the Bat #22
    - The Quest: Chapter 5 - Shadow of the Bat #23


    THE QUEST
    - The Crusade: Chapter 16 - Shadow of the Bat #24
    - The Crusade: Chapter 17 - Batman #505
    - The Crusade: Chapter 18 - Shadow of the Bat #25
    - The Crusade: Chapter 19 - Batman #506
    - The Crusade: Chapter 20 - Batman #507
    - The Crusade: Chapter 21 - Shadow of the Bat #26
    - The Crusade: Chapter 22 - Shadow of the Bat #27
    - The Crusade: Chapter 23 - Detective Comics #674
    - The Crusade: Chapter 24 - Batman #508
    - The Crusade: Chapter 25 - Shadow of the Bat #28
    - The Crusade: Chapter 26 - Detective Comics #675
    - The Quest: Chapter 6 - Legends of the Dark Knight #59 (really The Search)
    - The Quest: Chapter 7 - Legends of the Dark Knight #60
    - The Quest: Conclusion - Legends of the Dark Knight #61

    - The Crusade: Conclusion - Robin #7
    As I understand it, in our Omnibus Vol 2, The Crusade and The Search are totally separated.

    But in these French versions, they are properly integrated (well, integrated, but a tad poorly IMHO). Ergo, French ordering > superior to ours in America in Omnibus Vol 2.
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    @JBatmanFan05 & @ all other

    The French Ommibuses of Batman are overall better than the US.
    But we don't have all stories published yet, they are re-publishing it slowly but surely.
    The French editor Dargaut has a parternship with DC under the label Urban Comics.
    It's why recently there was Batman: The Dark Prince Charming by French author/artist Marini.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jb681131 View Post
    The French Ommibuses of Batman are overall better than the US.
    Better in terms of content inclusion and ordering perhaps, but these are also hardly "Omnibuses" by US standards. It takes like 8 books just to get the Knightfall-Knightsend Saga.

    I'm not trying to suggest I wouldn't prefer these because they're 8 volumes, but in the US you'll get maybe the 8 vols and maybe Omnibuses too, so you have more choice.
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    Why is it that every other country seems to have better collections than the US? Those are very attractive volumes and I like the cover art and typeface they used. I'm also impressed with the contents. I would prefer smaller books like these than the impractical behemoths DC prefers in the US. I wouldn't mind Robin #0 being left out of the omnibus though since we have Batman: Zero Hour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PurpleGlovez View Post
    I wouldn't mind Robin #0 being left out of the omnibus though since we have Batman: Zero Hour.
    The unique thing about Robin #0 is that it wasn't exactly like the other ZH #0's.....if you recall it deliberately went into Two-Face/Dick-as-Robin stuff that became important to Prodigal. It belongs in both IMHO (in fact, it might belong less in ZH). Just because it's one place doesn't mean it doesn't belong in the other too. It LITERALLY leads into Batman #512...completes a scene, completes a scene of dialogue with Dick taking the cowl. I know I may seem over passionate on this, but I always feel like some don't freshly remember how #0 went or how #512 opened.

    Robin #0 is almost like a clever trick Dixon played where he got to kickoff Prodigal and do its conclusion (Robin #13).

    I challenge people, go check out Robin #0 and the rest of Prodigal and come back and tell me you're really fine with it being left out. (if you can say that, then I will simply be shocked and know we're far apart on what we personally think it means for a story to belong in an arc)

    http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Robin_Vol_4_0
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