Is it time for Cass to replace the "Orphan" name yet?

[sakuyamons]

Sakuyamoms. Is it you? What happened to Damian?

What about Darkness? Dark Bat? 'Bat-Girl' with a hyphen like Spider-man?

I love him, but my girl goes first

[millernumber1]

A member of the Legion of Super Heroes. She's pretty awesome.

Ah. That makes sense. I don't think Shadow Lass feels right for Cass - Shadowbat or Shadow Bat feels more correct. But if what you say about Tynion being constrained by editorial to avoid using Bat symbols and names for Cass and Steph is true, then my preference - Shadowbat - is almost certainly forbidden.

Sakuyamoms. Is it you? What happened to Damian?

What about Darkness? Dark Bat? 'Bat-Girl' with a hyphen like Spider-man?

Why would you steal poor Bette's name?

[Soubhagya]

I love him, but my girl goes first

And who is this lady? From W i can guess she is related to Wonder Woman. The avatar looks good just as the previous two. Won't complain this time. Is she Cassie? I think you mentioned her name some time ago in Jon Kent's appreciation thread.

Ah. That makes sense. I don't think Shadow Lass feels right for Cass - Shadowbat or Shadow Bat feels more correct. But if what you say about Tynion being constrained by editorial to avoid using Bat symbols and names for Cass and Steph is true, then my preference - Shadowbat - is almost certainly forbidden.
Why would you steal poor Bette's name?

Bette? Do you mean Betty?



Kidding. Looked up at the internet.

I like Shadowbat. Shadow Lass is not available just as Black Bat. Is it true that she can't take a Bat name? That sounds stupid to me. Why call her one of the Bat family if she can't have the name of Bat?

[Assam]

And who is this lady? From W i can guess she is related to Wonder Woman. The avatar looks good just as the previous two. Won't complain this time. Is she Cassie? I think you mentioned her name some time ago in Jon Kent's appreciation thread.

Yup, that's Cassandra Sandsmark. Second Wonder Girl and rightful leader of the 4th generation of heroes.

Shadow Lass is good too.

I'd kind of hate that for Cass. I don't even like it for Tasmia, much preferring her alternate codename, Umbra.

Plus, if they were actually going to tie Cass into the Legion...wait, she isn't in any of the depicted futures for "a reason" according to King...are they gonna send her to the future and make her f**king Karate Kid?!

Is it true that she can't take a Bat name? That sounds stupid to me.

According to Tynion, they wanted to give her her classic symbol, the yellow Bat outline, on her current costume, but editorial said they didn't want to create confusion between her and Barabra. I wish I was joking.

[Soubhagya]

Yup, that's Cassandra Sandsmark. Second Wonder Girl and rightful leader of the 4th generation of heroes.

I'd kind of hate that for Cass. I don't even like it for Tasmia, much preferring her alternate codename, Umbra.

Plus, if they were actually going to tie Cass into the Legion...wait, she isn't in any of the depicted futures for "a reason" according to King...are they gonna send her to the future and make her f**king Karate Kid?!

According to Tynion, they wanted to give her her classic symbol, the yellow Bat outline, on her current costume, but editorial said they didn't want to create confusion between her and Barabra. I wish I was joking.

Well i forgot for a while that you mentioned Shadow Lass is from LOSH. Edited it. But then you are too fast. Thanks for informing about Cassie too.

It is odd reasoning. It takes away a lot of possibilities. Many of them cool. What to do about it? I am trying to think. What about just Cassandra? Can it pose problems?

I am sure you must have thought of a lot of options.

[sakuyamons]

And who is this lady? From W i can guess she is related to Wonder Woman. The avatar looks good just as the previous two. Won't complain this time. Is she Cassie? I think you mentioned her name some time ago in Jon Kent's appreciation thread.

Yep! That’s her that image is from the Jimenez run in Wonder Woman.

According to Tynion, they wanted to give her her classic symbol, the yellow Bat outline, on her current costume, but editorial said they didn't want to create confusion between her and Barabra. I wish I was joking.

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[Soubhagya]

Yep! That’s her that image is from the Jimenez run in Wonder Woman.


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That confused look makes all sense. Why make her Batgirl and then change so much that you can't have a name containing Bat? It makes no sense.

I don't want to set anyone's hopes too high as plans keep changing but it looks like they are all returning at least temporarily.

http://www.dccomics.com/comics/super...16/superman-39

But then you maybe knowing it already.

[MajorHoy]

Why would you steal poor Bette's name?

Bette? Do you mean Betty?

Actually . . . Bat-Girl was originally "Betty", not "Bette".

[adrikito]

I like the Dawn Bat... Stephanie Brown is the Brown Bat..

Maybe Cass can be the inspiration for Shadow Lass' name ?

One alias like The Shadow would be cool... Unfortunatelly we will never see her with this alias...

I think that DC would choose the EASY WAY... Black Bat again.. Better than Orphan..

[Rac7d*]

I don't mind if Steph keeps the "Spoiler" code-name, but I've never really loved "Orphan" for Cassandra.

Since the "Batgirl" name still belongs to Barbara Gordon, what other names could Cass use in place of "Orphan"?

Two possibilities could be "Dawn Bat" or "Brown Bat".

Other suggestions (besides going back to "Batgirl") people want to throw out there?

Dawn bat seem to similar to signal
And brown should not be used in a name it will not sound appealing

What's wrong with blackbat?

[millernumber1]

Actually . . . Bat-Girl was originally "Betty", not "Bette".

I reject this spelling!

I like the Dawn Bat... Stephanie Brown is the Brown Bat..

Ahahaha. Nice!

[Godlike13]

After 2 failed attempts at a superhero code name and persona, maybe drop those things altogether and go the Richard Dragon route with her.

[MajorHoy]

What's wrong with blackbat?

Well, it's not exactly original to DC.



Black Bat was originally a Golden Age pulp character who first appeared back in the 1930s. More recently, other comic book companies have published comic books starring the Black Bat, so DC wouldn't be able to copyright the name for Cass.
(And we know how DC can be when it comes to using names for characters it can't copyright/trademark! = Shazam! = )

[Lady Nightwing]

What about 'Chiroptera'?

Its another name for Bat. Looked up at the Wikipedia.

Name of a coffee house in Babs Burnside run. It would be like calling her Starbucks.

[Assam]

Honestly, I haven't been able to think of anything better than my 'Claymore' pitch from a few months ago. That said, so long as they were willing to give a push or tagline to go with it, no, I wouldn't have much objection to her just going by Cassandra Cain.

What's wrong with blackbat?

1. It's uncreative.
2. DC dosen't own the trademark (Although that doesn't seem to be a problem for Bombshells)
3. That name is a reminder of both DC's and fandom's mistreatment of the character.

Plus, my thoughts have changed over the last few months. 'Shadowbat', Dawn Bat'; if she can't be Batgirl, I'm really not too hot on the idea of her getting a Bat in her name, as it just reduces her to 'another Bat character'. I still want her to wear the Bat, but more in the way Jason does where he wears the symbol but still has his own distinct identity.

It would be like calling her Starbucks.

That would be a much better name for Barbara currently than Batgirl.