View Poll Results: Are Jean Grey and Dark Phoenix two different characters?

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    51 46.36%

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  1. 10-11-2021, 11:04 AM #76
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    Thank you Kurt Busiek, Jim Shooter and John Byrne!!!!

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    No!
    The power of the Phoenix Entity rebelling against the force of Marvel Girl's will is what tainted it

    AND it was MG's inner self, humanity and soul (when the Phoenix Entity hovered between light and darkness on the Moon)
    that made the difference. The Phoenix Entity had duplicated MG's human spirit and it was that spirit that DEFEATED Dark Phoenix.
    Quote Originally Posted by sunofdarkchild View Post
    For the purposes of the original story, they are the same. For the purposes of bringing Jean back and getting around Shooter's edicts they are different.
    Thank you Kurt Busiek!
    The original retcon showed that Marvel had no respect for their own stories.
    Much respect to you marvel comics!
    John Byrne's willingness to crap all over one of his most iconic stories was the first thing that made me lose much of my respect for him.
    Thank you John Byrne for your willingness to crap all
    over one of your most iconic stories. More respect to you.

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    Load of crap.
    Thank you John Byrne for this load of crap.
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  2. 10-11-2021, 11:06 AM #77
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    John Byrne
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    At 3:00, yes John you were right. It BOMBED at the box office.

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    The Phoenix entity made the star D'Bari go super-nova, thus being responsible...

    ...for the extermination of 5 billion people on planet B'Dari.


    Best Phoenix entity story ever and Marvel Girl aka Jean Grey is not in it, thus absolved of the unforgivable crime of genocide.

    Praise Kurt Busiek!
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  3. 10-11-2021, 11:24 AM #78
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    Quote Originally Posted by 616MarvelYear is LeapYear View Post
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    At 3:00, yes John you were right. It BOMBED at the box office.

    that dark phoenix movie and quite frankly all the foxmen movies were a mess.
    ALL HAIL THE HADARI YAO, THE OMEGA'S OMEGA, BEYOND OMEGA, THE VOICE OF SOL!!!! NOW AGAIN THE ONE TRUE AND ONLY GODDESS OF THE X-MEN AS CLAREMONT INTENDED!!!!!
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  4. 10-14-2021, 07:14 AM #79
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    Quote Originally Posted by CuteClops View Post
    The retcon in Fantastic Four # 286 was undone in AvX. Jean and the Phoenix were the same.

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    It's difficult form me to consider AvX canon...
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  5. 10-18-2021, 01:27 AM #80
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    Quote Originally Posted by lurkerforyears View Post
    I see the Phoenix as something like a Symbiote who is as strong as Galactus
    I see the Phoenix-Entity who usurped Marvel Girl's civilian identity, Jean Grey

    being as strong as Galactus' herald Firelord.

    Of course this is when the Phoenix-Entity had a mortal shell based on Marvel Girl's body, mind and soul.
    With no mortal shell...yes the Phoenix-Entity is on Galactus' scale.
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  6. 10-18-2021, 08:22 AM #81
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    Jessica Chastain Slams Awful X-Men Dark Phoenix Experience
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