Leia didn't fly
she was floating in space, and used the Force to pull herself to the hatch
Leia didn't fly
she was floating in space, and used the Force to pull herself to the hatch
So many people unable to understand that scene. I don't get it, it was obvious to me.
I don't disagree, but given the nature of gravity and outer space, at a certain point I would think that would be flying, no matter the form of propulsion.
Anyway, for me, her just surviving prolonged exposure in space was the most unbelievable part, and at that point, her zipping through space is almost like a subset and thus a lesser deal. I'm less concerned about that than the feat of survival itself, since no other Jedi ever displayed anything at that level before (and nevermind Leia, who was always force sensitive but never showed anything even remotely close to telekinesis of a pebble, nevermind pulling herself through several kilometers of vacuum).
Last edited by Cyke; 12-18-2017 at 12:16 PM.
The Snoke bit was really clever. It wasn't that he couldn't feel Kylo using the Force on a lightsaber--he just didn't realize which lightsaber, and which 'hated enemy' was the target. Kylo was intentionally crafting his thoughts in such a way that Snoke's expectations misled him.
I swear I heard somewhere that scientists aren't so sure exposure to the vacuum of space is the instant death sentence movies have portrayed it to be. For one thing, it depends on where in space you are. In the shade? Yeah, it's cold, but people can survive at least a few minutes in extreme cold. If she were exposed to the sun? Yeah, that's super-hot and she could cook in no time. Ambient radiation or getting hit by micrometeorites can also be a big problem.
Point is? Depending on circumstances, it's not that inconceivable that Leia could've survived a few minutes in space. When you factor in the powers of a Jedi, it becomes even less inconceivable.
Though much is taken, much abides; and though
We are not now that strength which in old days
Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are,
One equal temper of heroic hearts,
Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
--Lord Alfred Tennyson--
Definitely. That was a really creative use of his power.
One minute he's as brilliant as any Jedi has ever been and the next he's so blinded by rage that he blows his opportunity to end the Resistance once and for all.
I think Ep IX could give us a timelapse where he's much more confident and formidable when he re-emerges, similar to the difference between ESB Luke and ROTJ Luke.
It will help that he's dispensed with the Sith Rule of Two and he doesn't have to devote energy to one-upping a master or keeping an apprentice from killing him.
Id be happy with a 2-3 YEAR time jump between movies
I don't think theyll go that far, but Id be down with it
I've never heard that, but interesting!
Guardians of the Galaxy did something similar.
If nothing else, I assumed there was still some kind of weak shielding around the area where the ship had been hit--not strong enough to repel laser cannons, but still enough residual energy to limit the effects of exposure for a short time.
I prefer the time jumps. They didn't go that route this time for obvious reasons, but it leaves them more freedom for character growth.
I know it was cool when ROTJ began and Luke was wearing all black, had his own lightsaber, and seemed a lot more confident than he ever had.
They'll probably need some kind of gap if the Resistance is going to get any kind of numbers back into play. Right now they're like a hundred guys and some kids with brooms that think they're cool.
wow, they topped sounds without air with bombs dropping without gravity
(sure some comic will explain, that these were some kind of magnetic bombs, but the thought made me laugh in the cinema)
I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.
Except Jedi tend to scale up from something. If Anakin does something impressive in Ep. 2, he'll be even better in Ep. 3. If Obi-Wan turns into a spirit in Ep. 4, he'll becomes a visible Force Ghost in Ep. 5. If Luke's a good fighter in Ep. 5, he'll be even better in Ep. 6. If Yoda's a ghost in Ep. 6, he'll summon lightning from the sky as a ghost in Ep. 8. Even Kylo Ren has better showings here than he did in Ep. 7, and that's fine. And that's the whole point to Rey's training in TLJ. Each one of them has a base to start and extend from, displaying improvement in a previously shown Force power.
But Leia started from virtually nothing. Yes, the Force is more of a zigzag than linear, but that's one *hell* of a zag. It's the equivalent of a baby who's never walked before, suddenly beating everyone in varsity cross-country. If, for example, Leia was on Hoth and showed better protection from the elements than Han and Luke (of course, had Leia showed force sensitivity that early on), then there'd be something to go by, at least.
We saw her frozen, though. Sheets of ice around her wrist in the close up. And even then, while the body is somewhat protected by the vacuum, it's not as long as Leia was out there.
In the first GoTG, Quill and Gamora didn't spend nearly as much time as Leia in space (and even then, Gamora has superhuman durability). And in GoTG 2, every time someone was exposed to space, it was a death sentence.
But even then, Quill, Gamora, Yondu, the misc. crew, they all froze over like Leia did as well.
(not that we should compare the physics of two different franchises of course, but still)
Last edited by Cyke; 12-18-2017 at 01:01 PM.
On your points-
* Yes, especially since Y-Wings are already established as bomber. It also leads me to another point- ships that big (including transports) should have SHIELDS. Hell, even X-Wings have shields.
* He already was a character out of a Mel Brooks movie, but I'll agree they pushed it further this movie.
* That whole section felt like a commentary on the current political climate.
* Eh, I can go with it because he was so confident that Ben couldn't turn against him, he missed it. Much like Luke's hubris.
* It felt like nothing he did in the movie ultimately mattered, much like Poe and Rose. In fact, you can make the case that if they had done nothing, much more of the Resistance would have survived.
* I actually like that. It was different than what we usually get, and it actually addressed the fact that these ships do run on something!
* I just read that as Leia using the Force to keep her alive and pull herself back in. Though it makes you wonder why SHE didn't lift the rocks at the end.